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Outofstepwithhumanity Tue 28-Jun-16 12:48:00

S the fallout from Brexit drags on, (I am proudly wearing a "Don't blame me - I voted IN" badge, I have just been taken to task by a neighbour from the "send em all back to where they came from" school of thought. "They come over here, take our jobs, claim our benefits, can't speak English and have no skills etc.etc." I was struck by the irony as this woman never worked, lived off the proceeds of her husband's earnings (presumably didn't provide enough for pension, as she receives pension credit) Has no skills or qualifications and whose grasp of the English language is far below that of any of my non-British friend. If I were to be similarly uncivil, I might suggest we get rid of her, I would not, of course, but I was tempted!

Bez1989 Wed 29-Jun-16 17:33:38

Oh please stop arguing ! Lol
If it happens in a little place like this how can we expect nations to live in peace?
Be Kind to One Another. sunshine

pollyperkins Wed 29-Jun-16 18:27:09

Bluecat-thats exactly what worried me. I dont like where we areheading

thatbags Wed 29-Jun-16 19:09:13

outofstep, how will we have an unelected PM? A PM has to be an MP elected by his or her constituents. We have a prime minister, not a president. All government ministers are already elected MPs. The Prime Minister is chosen from the elected MPs of the party in power. This is what will happen to choose Cameron's replacement.

Lilyflower Wed 29-Jun-16 19:18:34

The polarisation of opinion is sad, yes, but I think it has always been with us. What is new is that people now feel entitled to share it more publicly. Clearly, sites like Gransnet and others inviting comment are a place for sharing views.

Smithy Wed 29-Jun-16 19:19:42

It will be an unelected Prime Minister THATBAGS as was Gordon Brown, as he/she will be taking over the mantle without a General Election - unless there is a General Election called in September.
Where can I buy a badge and a flak helmet.

durhamjen Wed 29-Jun-16 19:19:59

From what I understand, if Boris is chosen there will have to be another election so he has a mandate from the people for his ideas, as he hasn't been in government.
There's always hope.

Elegran Wed 29-Jun-16 19:42:31

But a Prime Ninister is never elected by us to be that, Smithy We don't have a US-style special presidential election for a Prime Minister.

He/she is the leader of the party which gets a majority - chosen to be the leader by that party, not by us, as the person the party is ready to accept.

He/she then forms a government from people they want to help them.

If the Prime Minister resigns, is fired as leader of the party, or dies in office, then whoever takes his/her place at the head of the party with the majority becomes Prime Minister - as the new person the party is willing to accept to lead them.

obieone Wed 29-Jun-16 20:03:03

Blinko grin
Just to lighten the mood!

thatbags Wed 29-Jun-16 22:09:28

I think people are saying that a new PM in the middle of a parliament is not directly elected. When there is a general election the Parties have already chosen their Party leaders so people voting in the election know who will be prime minister if the party they vote for wins the election.

All that is correct. But it is also correct that we, the electorate, do not choose (that is, elect) our government's prime minister by a direct vote. Party members decide Party leaders, not the wider electorate. So the method is not different in the middle of a parliamentary term from the method during a general election. That is what is meant by saying it's not like a presidential election where the whole electorate vote for the country's president.