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The Media fuelling division

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Joelsnan Wed 29-Jun-16 00:39:02

My local newspaper is tweeting a headline Babyboomers votie for Brexit will this result in poverty for today's young families.
Firstly I find this generalisation wrong and the fear inducing factor of the supposition fuelling division.
Secondly I have seen calls from more than one newspaper calling for anyone who has suffered any racist comment since last week to contact them, I find any true xenophobia or racism really distasteful and feel it should be stamped on immediately. Shouldn't the media be advising anyone suffering to contact the police, rather than hover like vultures looking for something to inflame divisions further, sadly these issues have been occurring since mass immigration started last century, why sensationalise it now.
I get a sense that the media is on some sort of mission to whip up and fuel anxiety and division within the population and I wonder why?

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 29-Jun-16 16:51:30

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M0nica Wed 29-Jun-16 17:03:06

I didn't say he was a fool. Without doubt he is very clever, a quality he enjoys displaying, but there is far more to intelligence than getting a First at Oxford or being able to quote Greek and Latin.

Intelligence requires the ability to understand your opponents, to have the skill to act in a subtle and nuanced way, to move them in your direction and more broadly, to have a hinterland of wider interests to bring perspective to your life. Something that most politicians have lacked since politics became a profession.

Boris's calculaltions before opting to join the Leave campaign were transparent, as has been the way he has backed off from many Leave pledges since. His blatant lie telling during the campaign lacked subtlty in a way that showed a visible contempt for the electorate. It was not what he did but the way that he did it that showed his lack of intelligence.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 29-Jun-16 17:16:08

Actually I said "play the fool". I was quoting Shakespeare.

We shall see.

grandMattie Wed 29-Jun-16 17:43:24

DO NOT underestimate Boris. I think he just plays the buffoon and knows exactly what he's up to. A dangerous mix!
We need to bite the bullet, hope that the Tory party picks a good 'un for PM and go forward...

rosesarered Wed 29-Jun-16 18:18:53

The media never lingers on good news does it? The markets and pound are already recovering, but that isn't considered newsworthy.

Badenkate Wed 29-Jun-16 18:23:52

There is a similarity between Boris and Trump in that they are both only concerned with advancing themselves and will say and do anything to achieve that end

M0nica Wed 29-Jun-16 18:27:14

I do not under estimate him . He does know exactly what he wants, makes it blindingly obvious, and no strategem is so low he will not sink lower.

However his greetest failing is hubris. We are getting it now with his denial that immigration played any part in voters' Brexit decisions, despite the way the Leave team played that card throughout the campaign and many voters saying quite explicitly that that was what decided their vote.

rubysmoke Wed 29-Jun-16 19:48:09

for the reason that I no longer trust or believe in most headlines these days, I no longer buy a paper. When I voted I relied on my knowledge of Europe(having lived there) and my own common sense. Did not listen to the news or broadcasts or any politician - just made my own mind up and will accept the vote and any consequences without screaming and ranting

Joelsnan Wed 29-Jun-16 20:04:12

Rubysmoke well said. I too made my decision without any reference to the media, switched over when party political broadcasts were made indeed towards the end stopped watching or listening to the news. My decision had been made long before the campaign started having followed the UKs struggled with the EU almost since joining the common market.
However since the referendum you cannot get away from blame, misery, pessimism, scaremongering on every media platform, Facebook, Twitter, tv, newspapers.
We are reinforcing the European perspective of UK as being a load of moaners. I wonder if the majority of moaners actually really understand what they are moaning about, this on both sides.
I wish media would kick start some optimism and 'we will succeed' attitude fo a change.

M0nica Wed 29-Jun-16 20:06:55

How many European countries have you lived in Rubysmoke?

rosesarered Wed 29-Jun-16 20:08:21

Good post Joelsnan