Oscar Pistorius sentenced for murder

As he's already served part of the original sentence, he'll probably serve 3years at most.

Yes I think him serving 6 years will make me, if not my life happier because at least I'll feel that some justice has been served.

For goodness sake Anniebach what in any of my posts could possibly have made you think that "the threat of gang rape if carried out will be justice because he deserved it?" was an appropriate response.

If it was your intention to cast me in a bad light, I'm afraid you've scored an own goal.

Nope. Not made us happier. It's too short. If he's gang raped in a SA prison, then you are on the wrong thread and need to start one to reform SA prisons.

The quality of mercy is not strained - except apparently on Gransnet!
Back to your Old Testaments girls!

Jane

I think you will find GN is not a secret society. It represents the wide spectrum of views of many outside of it. I think, looking at the percentage on this particular thread, you are in the minority. Most people, on GN, and in general, if you read the media backlas; think he is a lying, manipulative murderer. Who showed NO mercy! If that's o.k. with you, you are more than entitled to your views of course.

I most certainly am.

Smileness, you seem to have mixed up a question with and accusation yes?

We are all entitled to our own views breeze, , your permission isn't needed

Don't remember giving it. Just your usual 'twisting' of a polite sentence for your own benefit. You can insult all you want. You bother me not. You are in the minority regarding this subject. But of course, are entitled to your views. Oh grief, I just did it again!

No not at all, I questioned why you thought it appropriate to ask me if I would regard him being gang raped in prison as being his just deserts; justice being served.

I wondered if you did so to try and cast me in a bad light, have no idea why you should wish too though.

Smileness , why on earth would I want or need to do that?

I've no idea Anniebach but your mention of it had nothing to do with the discussion about his guilt or innocence or the appropriateness of his sentence.

Sadly I'm sure there are many prisoners who are in fear of such things, but don't expect it to be taken into account by the courts, or anyone else for that matter, when their sentence is passed.

Smileness m I thunk he should serve the sentence in a prison hospital, he is vulnerable

Yes, I see what you're saying but surely he'll be looked out for in prison? Such a high profile prisoner, and such a high profile case it wouldn't do much for the SA prison authorities if he was to come to any harm.

Seems so many want not only justice but revenge so I doubt him being attacked would cause upset for many

And him serving the six years will make your life happier? The threat of gang rape if carried out will be justice because he deserved it?
No to both although the question was not addressed to me; however, I do believe in justice. He should be protected in prison which could mean solitary confinement, but I believe that the sentence is too lenient. It is only one year more than if he had been found guilty of manslaughter.
I do not know what miscarriage of justice has to do with it, unless the previous sentence was found to be so.

We are not living in South Africa (although there may be posters who are) and their justice system is different to ours.

I think that women's groups in SA are outraged at the lenient sentence. I am surprised that some posters are not of the same mind.

I think most are of the same mind

Just read my previous posts. No point in reiteration.

Interestingly, just when you thought this was over, read today that the 6 years is being challenged as too lenient.

Well that is interesting NotSpaghetti. Whose made the challenge? I for one hope they succeed.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/21/south-africa-to-appeal-pistorius-six-year-murder-sentence/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36855498

It's the South African State Prosecutor it seems!

Thanks for the link NotSpaghetti.

With regard to the money issues I think that as someone else said there are cultural differences to take into account. I agree the sentence is light and he tried to manipulate the court using his disability. However if it was my daughter who was killed I would want the whole circus over with and be left to grieve in peace. Nothing is going to change the fact that Reeva died, Pistorious will continue to be the awful person he clearly is. There is an issue of course about the message this sentence sends out.

I think Gettingonabit has made very rational posts I think the judge made the only judgement she could have in light of the huge media and public outcry and 'interest' by interest I mean all the armchair judges who ' know what happened'

I think he is a totally broken man which must serve as some punishment as well as the sentence No one knows what really happened only himself he seemed a fairly arrogant young man who had a hothead and acted in the moment to both his and Reevas detriment

Not one of us knows what happened or what was in his head when it happened whether he was in a rage at Reeva or in a flight or fight mode because of his perceived danger No one knows if he's lied through his back teeth or if he's told the truth A judge is only human a wise ( usually) and knowledgable human being but even a judge can't see in someone's brain at the time it happened

The reason I hate guns and the rightful ownership to have by your bed a weapon to kill so easily in a moment of passion or fear