Could Labour 'split'. Tom Watson calls off talks.

I hadn't caught up with that one Beammeupscottie. I see an article yesterday was speculating that McCluskey is up for reelection in 2018 and after that may not be quite so keen on a leader who cannot win. As I said in a previous post the Unions need a party in power to protect their rights and they, like Nye Bevan, will go to where the power is.

Good grief is she? It gets shadier now

I do wonder if this break-in business is obliquely aimed at McClusky. Isn't the lady who broke in his "squeeze"?

I await the answers to your sensible post Devogilla

Should be eminent sense. Apologies to the spelling gurus.

After the Damien Green business strict regulations were put in place that an MP's office was sacrosanct unless you had a search warrant. Makes imminent sense to me in these times of heightened security. Boxes don't automatically mean an office or house is empty. We are told this is the 'new' type of politics so why didn't they lift a phone and ask her staff or the MP for that matter? Just plain, old fashioned courtesy to me. That shows me just how far relationships between JC and his PLP have broken down. She was not a novice but an office manager. She would have been trained in all new regulations. There were three attempts to enter the office. At least one was successful. The MP could have had sensitive data regarding constituents in there or are they expected to clear their desks every time they pop out for a wee? I resented McDonnell's attempt to paint a picture of her as a poor widow woman who would, with her family, be destitute if she lost her job. Who asked her to go to the office? Was it off her own bat and therefore she is solely responsible? Or was she sent, in which case she should have said she did not have clearance and to go themselves. Doubt she will lose her job but should be given the required training for the future.

Why didn't they ask her Jen? Why didn't the woman who had been appointed in her place ask her? Is it too difficult to ask - have you vacated the office? too civilised for McDonald though

Labour took a hammering Jen because it turned to the left. The Libs only gained 23 seats and that was the Libs plus SDP , no use saying not all labours fault , the country did not want the left and now they have the far left .

In 1983, Thatcher had the Falklands to give her a boost, and the fact that the SDP had just formed but said they would not put candidates against safe Tory seats. Not all Labour's fault.

Ms Malhotra claimed yesterday that staff members working for the Labour leadership had broken into her office.

But Mr McDonnell revealed that the space isn’t Ms Malhotra’s office any more.

She had been expected to swap offices with Rebecca Long-Bailey, the MP who took over as Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury after Ms Malhotra resigned.

Mr McDonnell’s office manager had spotted a pile of boxes outside her office, nearly a month after she resigned and assumed that office was empty, he told the BBC’s Andrew Marr.

So the big question isn’t why somebody ‘broke into’ Ms Malhotra’s office, but why she was still there – and why she was accusing innocent office staffers of burglary.

May be acceptable in your world trisher doesn't mean it is for everyone

Right I will try again

1883 election the Labour Party returned to the left

Tory party 397 seats. Labour Party 209 seats . This included the votes from Scotland,

no immigrate problems as we have now, UKIP is on the rise and before the next election 40 seats will be lost because if changes in boundaries , the majority are labour seats. Corbyn will not consider controlled immigration and May has already started her campaign with her concern for the struggling workers

Yet you believe turning far left will bring about a labour victory?

If the most an MP has to complain about is someone swearing at them I think they are damn lucky. We all know that the worst period for bullying was when Alistair Campbell was working for Blair. I don't remember anybody then complaining.

durhamjen Your post on Saturday 23rd 17.11.
"which is why i, for one am not going to write anymore about the Labour Party"
What happened there then?

To the corbynites . How many of you were party members in 1883, how many canvassed for that election, how msny recall the results Tory party 387 seats Labour Party seats 209. How many canvassed for the following three?

That is what turning to the left did,

.whitewave, no Howard Keel in my life sadly

She did enter an office without permission Jen, dhe must have known this was not permitted

Trisher m all the keys are electronically tagged, this is how it was discovered who had entered the office without permission . Again I ask, why didn't they ask her if she had vacated the premises ?

voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/07/24/stop-this-now-mcdonnells-appeal-to-the-mps-trying-to-destroy-our-party/

The woman who went into Seema Malhotra's office is now worried she might lose her job, as she was accused of breaking into an office.

annie at the moment you seem like your namesake standing in the middle of the street with all guns blazing!!! Go for it girl

It's an office Anniebach, in a public building. It's not a private boudoir. Some poor cleaner probably goes in regularly without asking anyone.

He deserved one Rosesarered. The same man who called the MP's he appealed to direct to camera f*****g losers . That's the way to rally support ?

Was McDonnell going for a BAFTA on the Marr Show today?

The only deaf ears are Corbyns

How can they deal with these problems ? Would you follow a leader who had no problem with you being called a f*****g loser . The party is in bits , no leader , well someone who has the title but again avoided a tv interview this morning, who is the leader ? Corbyn or McDonald ? Or perhaps the head of momentum

trish you are so right. We need an opposition but it is falling on deaf ears.

But entering without permission is not permitted , why not ask the MP ?