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Austerity is a myth.

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Parliament100 Sat 16-Jul-16 14:44:16

Austerity is just a media tag, the reality is that since Thatcher the right wing Tory's have initiated an ideological attack on all the social improvements built up by the Labour Government after WW2, and what's worse Thatcher, Cameron, and Osborne have got away with it..

Jalima Sun 17-Jul-16 18:09:13

The English Parliament? Why do you claim the English are more self centred than those in the other three countries of the United Kingdom

Perhaps because more of them are Tory's (sic) anniebach and the Tory's (sic) are supposedly more self-centred hmm ?

Thank you for pointing us towards the political threads Elegran I don't think anyone noticed them before.

Has anybody got a plot, because I'm not sure what this thread is about? I think I lost it much earlier on, at the first post so to speak confused

daphnedill Sun 17-Jul-16 17:47:04

Austerity isn't a myth to those who suffered the consequences, but claiming that Osborne followed an austerity regime IS a myth, because he didn't raise taxes for the wealthiest and, therefore, didn't succeed in his aim to get rid of the deficit.

True austerity affects all sectors of a society and reduces demand. He only reduced for demand in certain sectors of society. His refusal to encourage more house building increased demand and prices.

whitewave Sun 17-Jul-16 17:09:41

Austerity isn't a myth, try saying that to someone suffering the consequences.

What is a myth is that there is no alternative.

Anya Sun 17-Jul-16 15:50:58

I think it's a rant against 'Tory's' [sic] and now we're all being called politically naive NIMBYs (with or without an apostrophe -it's too hot to care)

daphnedill Sun 17-Jul-16 15:41:21

Crises of capitalism

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0

Anniebach Sun 17-Jul-16 13:29:34

True niggly

nigglynellie Sun 17-Jul-16 13:26:49

It's nice to have a bit of common ground! smile

Anniebach Sun 17-Jul-16 13:12:56

I agree niggly - this is becoming a habit smile

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 17-Jul-16 13:12:40

Parliament100 I couldn't agree more with Elegran. The News and Politics sub forum is full of threads with very opinionated posters supporting Tory and Labour ideology (other parties too).

I don't know why you would think posters are not interested.

daphnedill Sun 17-Jul-16 12:54:56

Has anybody got a plot, because I'm not sure what this thread is about?

nigglynellie Sun 17-Jul-16 11:52:59

Exactly! There are four countries making up the UK as I understand it, namely England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, in which ever order you personally want to put them. All of these are both different and the same, none more or less important than the other, so why single out England and HER parliament? or was it just a generalisation? If so,it was a pretty poor one.

Elegran Sun 17-Jul-16 11:43:23

Perhaps instead of starting new ones you could post on some of the political conversations that are already on the go. There are people posting on those who have A LOT of interest in politics and I am sure you would find them interesting.

These with plenty of action at the moment, with posts added yesterday and today:-
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1227974-So-what-will-Camerons-Legacy-Be
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1227878-More-cuts-to-social-care-on-the-way
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1227899-The-New-Cabinet
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1227253-Brexit-watch
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1227786-Could-Labour-split-Tom-Watson-calls-off-talks

And you will find a list ofother conversations on News and Politics at www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics. Some of those have not had a post added for a couple of days, but you could read what has been posted previously, and perhaps add your opinion.

Anniebach Sun 17-Jul-16 11:35:04

The English Parliament? Why do you claim the English are more self centred than those in the other three countries of the United Kingdom ?

Parliament100 Sun 17-Jul-16 11:20:19

For what its worth, he or she actually wonders if its worth posting political stuff on here, there seems to be a mindset that just isnt interested/concerned.

This would go with my view that the vast majority of the English simply are neither interested in, or motivated by politics unless things affect them personally, but by then its all too late.

Yes, WilmaKnickersfit , everything happening to day did start with Thatcher, but I honestly think the majority on this thread simply dont give a damn, or they are Tory's who simply dont want to know ???

Anya Sun 17-Jul-16 08:06:19

Who said anything about negating a post? We only pointed out how certain quirks help to identify posters.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 17-Jul-16 02:14:31

I also think it started with Margaret Thatcher. Her policies changed our country forever and made it impossible for any government to reverse the changes. Can you imagine the reaction if the government said it was going to re-nationalise BT, British Gas, the railways, etc.? I still can't believe the government doesn't control our water supply. Time for bed me thinks.

janeainsworth Sun 17-Jul-16 01:54:41

I think!

janeainsworth Sun 17-Jul-16 01:54:23

jalima Inthink the acronym you were looking for is TLDR.
Too long, didn't read wink

Eloethan Sun 17-Jul-16 00:03:14

I don't think a grammatical error negates what someone posts - lots of people on her make spelling and grammatical mistakes but it seems that only some of them are picked up on it.

Jalima Sat 16-Jul-16 23:37:24

I can type fast but don't always check before I post
hence a lot of boo-boos

Anniebach Sat 16-Jul-16 23:32:25

I never spot those things , same with claims of similar ways of posting

Jalima Sat 16-Jul-16 23:26:07

No problem Jalima, my sight if failing and I have my hand and wrist in strapping
Oh dear, it's my foot that is strapped up, at least I can type!

I knew there was something familiar in the OP so looked it up (Tory's I mean)

DaphneBroon Sat 16-Jul-16 22:00:59

wink

Anya Sat 16-Jul-16 21:59:21

Phoenix no Parliament100 is not new. He/,she pops up now and again and is instantly recognisable by not knowing the plural of Tory.

grannylyn65 Sat 16-Jul-16 21:42:04

confused