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Brexit watch, round 2

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petra Thu 21-Jul-16 20:35:01

Jalima Some people are having difficulty understanding that the remain camp lost the vote. They failed. They lost. They came second.

NfkDumpling Sat 06-Aug-16 20:52:58

253 signatures now DJ! I expect they're people who give Jedi as their religion.

grumppa Sat 06-Aug-16 21:19:05

And the Prince of Wales's motto is "ich dien".

durhamjen Sat 06-Aug-16 21:26:10

German hasn't been stopped yet, has it, grumppa.

daphnedill Sat 06-Aug-16 22:18:23

I wonder when somebody will realise that 'passport' is a French word from 'passer' (to pass) + 'port'. What are they going to call the thing with no words on it?

grin @ NfkDumpling

durhamjen Sat 06-Aug-16 22:20:12

I have been known to give vegetarian as my religion, Nfk.

daphnedill Sat 06-Aug-16 22:20:32

Our coins have letters in a foreign (Latin) code too!

durhamjen Sat 06-Aug-16 22:22:31

I think we should have a good dose of Anglo-Saxon teaching in our schools. Middle English is possibly a bit too close to French for some.

daphnedill Sat 06-Aug-16 22:28:51

I think we'll have to go back further than that. According to Wiki, "Honi soit qui mal y pense" dates back to Edward III, who had Anglo-Norman ancestry. Britain still owned parts of France. We'd better go back to 1066 and abolish all words introduced since then.

NfkDumpling Sun 07-Aug-16 15:27:43

Or we could claim back 'our' bits of France! Oh no, perhaps not - that'd mean we'd get Calais! grin

durhamjen Sun 07-Aug-16 15:33:07

The French don't want Calais at the moment!

durhamjen Sun 07-Aug-16 15:35:26

Anglo-Saxon is pre-Norman. I think it's pre Viking, 5th century.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sun 07-Aug-16 16:17:13

The original people of this land buggered off to Wales when the Angles turned up, surely if we reeeeeelly want to reclaim our heritage we should be teaching Welsh and not English at all.

Jalima Sun 07-Aug-16 16:22:19

English is an amalgam of many languages

but even Welsh has to pinch some modern words from English .....

Jalima Sun 07-Aug-16 16:27:21

Any Michelles, Adeles, Maries, Dianes, Charlottes, Josephines, Carolines etc out there??

Sorry but you are going to have to pick a new name.

daphnedill Sun 07-Aug-16 16:52:50

The Saxons were still foreign, dj. Lumpy is right. We should be speaking Welsh or Cornish.

whitewave Sun 07-Aug-16 16:55:20

Cornish!!!!!!!!! smile

daphnedill Sun 07-Aug-16 16:56:01

@Jalima

As a child on Merseyside, our TV was tuned to a Welsh transmitter, so we received Welsh programmes. It always used to amuse me in the middle of a cookery programme that they said 'self raising flour' and other 'modern' terms.

Anyway, if we abolish English as we know it, what are the Americans, Australians, NZers, etc going to speak?

daphnedill Sun 07-Aug-16 16:57:28

Well, I believe Cornish was one of the original Brettonic languages.

durhamjen Sun 07-Aug-16 22:33:01

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Sorry, back to Brexit.

daphnedill Mon 08-Aug-16 02:22:04

I think there's going to be an awful lot of time to fill with trivia, before the UK eventually leaves the EU. For a start, nobody seems to agree what they voted for. People didn't even vote Leave for the same reasons, so some kind of plan needs to be put in place before Article 50 is even invoked.

When it is, it's going to take years, maybe decades to unravel the EU law and replace it with British law - not to mention the trade agreements which apparently countries are queuing up to make with the UK. It took Canada over 8 years to come to an agreement with the EU and, unless the UK goes for a Norway-type agreement, it's going to have to make agreements with dozens of countries. Before all that happens, we're going to have to find the staff. I wonder how much will be left of the £350 million a day.

Linsco56 Mon 08-Aug-16 02:56:28

Very little I would imagine.

Finding the staff of the right calibre with the requisite level of negotiating skills will not be an easy task. Do we have a pool of civil servants available who are capable and could rise to the occasion...I doubt it!

Ginny42 Mon 08-Aug-16 07:40:51

I voted to remain for many reasons both for my family and what I considered to be best for young people and for the UK. However what has been revealed so far about just how much we rely on the EU has shocked me.

If the best we can hope for is a Norway kind of deal, with access to the single market by accepting freedom of movement and paying roughly what Britain has been paying all along, what was it all about? All in all, pretty much the same as before with one major difference: no say in EU matters, while having to accept whatever Brussels decides.

Little compensation from knowing I had the right intentions when I placed my cross in the box.

@ DD, where did you find the information about all the countries queuing to make trade agreements with the UK? I do hope so.

The EU has never stopped us from trading with the outside world.

petra Mon 08-Aug-16 07:59:25

The deal with Canada hasn't got the rubber stamp yet. Romania has threatened to scupper it because of visa issues. The French aren't happy because of the way junker has attempted to walk all over the other states, and the wallonia ( Belgium) don't like it.
Still a way to go. Unlike us where they are only dealing with one country.

daphnedill Mon 08-Aug-16 08:23:45

@Ginny

I wrote 'apparently', because Brexiteers claim there are. I can't see it myself.

@petra

I agree that it will be simpler with just one country involved, but deals are still likely to take years rather then days.

MargaretX Mon 08-Aug-16 09:37:45

I think he average time is 10 years, and who knows what the world will be like in 10 years time.

The Brexiteers had enough time to consider it. the rules were put down years ago. The UK signed them.

Germany is more worried about which technology will be saleable in 10 years time not whom to sell it to.
People here seem to think they won't leave anyway OR they will accept refugees.

Turkey is more important now than the UK
Brexit is old news already and in a year's time even more so.

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