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How to treat women

(33 Posts)
obieone Mon 01-Aug-16 09:42:01

I think I agree with this?

[I could only find a Daily Mail and Telegraph link, not a Guardian one]

TerriBull Mon 01-Aug-16 16:04:00

I don't think for one moment that all the men that have left war zones behave in the same way, many will be respectful around women and wont need any instruction on how to behave.

However, as we all know there are those that have regressed back to a bygone time and are embracing all the horrors of fundementalism, how do we change those mindsets that's the problem we face. In the meantime some county council is trying to make wolf whilsting a crime against women, what a topsy turvey world we live in, we can have preachers in our midst who think it's acceptable to tell young men that raping infidels and killing gays is a good thing, but some moron on a building site shouts out "cheer up love" and that's a hate crime, it's bloody annoying, but it hardly compares to rape and murder shock

SparklyGrandma Mon 01-Aug-16 16:54:05

Hi, I agree some acclimatization to help people fit in, on all areas, should be available. I worked in East London for a while in health advocacy, and one guy wouldn't talk directly to me or other women as it was against his culture,having recently arrived.
I know one swallow a summer musn't make and it is essential people know whats polite in the very least, in our UK culture.

Devorgilla Mon 01-Aug-16 17:02:51

I think it is a good idea to make people coming into this country aware of the general practices we follow. Other countries do it when we plan to visit them. For example the laws regarding the partaking of alcohol in Muslim countries. It can be an uphill struggle to change attitudes but we did change attitudes towards the treatment of women in this country by our own menfolk and we did change racist and homophobic attitudes. Admittedly, not everyone is happy about it and pockets still exist but it is still worth the effort. There are men in our own native population who still hold out of date attitudes about women. We forget that a woman had to have a male sponsor for a mortgage up to the 1970s and rape in marriage was only outlawed towards the end of the 20th century. A long way to go, ladies. You just have to keep battling on.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 01-Aug-16 18:45:55

gj might know it daphnebroon but I only recognise the "merde" bit. Cba to google it.

DaphneBroon Mon 01-Aug-16 18:48:05

Un taureau is a bull
As in "Toreador"
Easy enough.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 01-Aug-16 18:49:31

Oh, you mean bull-shit.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 01-Aug-16 18:52:00

petra firstly it is one hour a week, although I don't know for how long. The woman in the hijab has been attending for almost 4 years, so perhaps there is no limit. To counter your comment, it was interesting to hear the young lawyer say he thought that way three years ago, but not any longer. Also, according to the politician the taxi drivers did know what they were doing was against the law. I just think it was interesting to hear so many different people talk about their experiences of the whole situation.

One point that I think was very interesting was the man who shaking his head, commented about young men in France and the UK were fighting against the government. It did surprise me that the woman wearing the hijab didn't think she could change (wonder why her application was refused when she is a single parent?), but she wanted to learn what her children would experience in their new lives.

The teacher with the surgeon wife was right though, when he said people look at them and all they see is the hijab and Allah 'Akbar'. They looked like any Western couple and I felt hope when I saw the community event. A small community though is different from the inner city.

Having watched the video, I definitely think anything that will help immigrants and locals understand each other better can only be a good thing.