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Jalima, FGS, read what I say. I am very aware there are many aspects to engineering. I chose the one I know most about and it is an area that women do NOT want to enter but men enjoy, so equality of numbers is unlikely. Men tend to be less concerned about minor physical disfigurement cause by their jobs, take a look at a brick layers hands for instance.

Men also generally have the ability to be physically stronger than women, that will also dictate jobs.

don't shout, G&Tea I may cry
(my female hormones taking over)

<passes Jalima smelling salts>

Being respectful of the weaker sex, I apologise for apparently shouting (It wasn't meant as a shout) Have one of my tissues.

This is also tongue in cheek btw (not the apology)

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I was at an agricultural show yesterday. Kids, some quite small, helping to show the animals. The girls were not dressed in frills. (I'll try to add a photo or two...) You might enjoy the one of the little boy who looked about 4 combing the cows. Kids were just working.
Another little vignette - best in show Hereford bull getting titivated with sprays and combs before the final trip to the show ring. One big burly rural looking chap in attendance. The other guy working on the full-body coiffure was slight, extremely dapper, very sharp hair cut. Did the bull have his own hairdresser or was this chap the member of a farming family who had chosen a different career path but brought his hairdressing expertise into play on show days?

A tissue? Is that the best you can offer?
I expect a G&T at the very least (double please, slice no ice).


I do love to see the children showing off their animals at the County show!

Farming is am area where women can not compete better as it becomes more mechanised, anyone can drive modern farm machinery, it does not need the physical strength it once needed. But you might still need a man to change a wheel on your big John Deer tractor.

G&T on our second date. xxx

Typo - can compete, not, can not, oops.

Looking at the size of tractors these days, I expect they call in a specialist contractor. Did anyone else see the programme that showed the NZ farmer mustering her vast flock of merits in the high mountains?
There are of course very few jobs these days that require extreme physical strength that some men are able to supply.

You don't see women brickies
Seriously I am so not a feminist,I love men, I love people,but I do honestly believe every one is equal,every one is different,with different capabilities and talents,but most of us can offer something.the person cleaning the streets is just as important as the brain surgeon.one person may offer the physical strength,another the brains,( not me,I don't have either) another may be a good organiser (that's me)it doesn't matter which gender does which,so long as they're capable and happy doing it.
For goodness sake,get a life some of you,if your little girl likes pink (like mine) dont mean they can't be an astronaut,they change so much.I remember my big strong nephew,when he was small,he used to tell everyone about his baby sister.He didn't have one,it was a doll he used to play with.

Don't see women brickies? www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-business/10320077/Meet-the-female-brickie-who-still-gets-her-nails-done-every-week.html

On the same page there are links to other articles about women in jobs traditionally done by men.

well my take on being a feminist is...get a bloke to do it for you while you get on with doing what you want to

I'm with you Ilrina as would be any sensible woman!

Women brickies ? They are obviously rare enough to make the newspapers. I do know a lady plumber, her father runs the business.

"Get a bloke to do it", are we being conned here ?

Where have all the male BBC news presenters gone, the only man to be seen was presenting the weather (Carols's weather was much netter though - less rain)

You don't often post, IIrina but with that comment, you nailed it. That is exactly my experience of feminists.

Me too ladies,each to their own,but count me out,I'm very happy wiv me lattes and nattering,

"get a bloke to do it for you"

But you would miss so much!

#willdigthatbloodygardenmyself

Where have all the male BBC news presenters gone

Damn feminists must have got them!

My next door neighbour had children about the same time as I did I remember her saying her daughter was never going to have a train set. It is attitudes like that that promote such behaviour.

My dad had two daughters, after doing evening classes and getting certificates in mechanical enginering he eventually did teacher training.
My sister (the older child) had a train set and dad also introduced us, in an accesssible way, to the physics of centrifugal force, by showing us how to bank up the bends in the line with dominoes under the rails to stop the train spinning off on a bend.

He showed us about siphons and how they worked. I am sure that sort of unobtrusive "teaching" got my science interests going.

The lack of women brickies may have a lot to do with the appalling behaviour of many brickies towards any woman who dares to venture onto a building site.

Marmark1. I only joined a few days ago, but I post every day

I suspect some girls are interested in engineering at school and college where things are perfect. When they get into real world things are not always as pristine.
How many girls go into automobile engineering after seeing factories like Mclaren where you could perform surgery, only to find that the real world of most mechanics is very different.

Having worked in factories with mainly women operatives, I found they could give as good as they got, if not better, as I found when my tight trousers split in the middle of the assembly line.

Still wondering why there are male and female members on here being so venomous about this topic.
It seems to me blindingly obvious that girls (and boys) choices in their careers are restricted by their gender and for no good reason. When I was a science teachers girls sometimes said "Science isn't really a girls subject is it miss?" My young friend A, when discussing her A level choices, told me that she had no idea what engineering and computers involved as a subject. This from a school that supposedly promotes STEM subjects. Most/all of those doing those subjects for GCSE were boys. She was going to opt for both Sociology and Psychology A levels until I jumped up and down. She swapped the Psychology for Chemistry and absolutely loves it.

Venom? I haven't seen any.

(Flirting, yes. (That jalima again! )

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