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Beginning to distrust Jeremy Corbyn

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M0nica Mon 08-Aug-16 19:57:08

What ever else I may think about JC, I did believe he was a man with principles, who stuck to them.

However, I am beginning to doubt that he is the sea-green incorruptible he is made out to be. Last year he said on television that he saw no case for appointing new peers and would not do so. Now he has nominated Shami Chakrabati fora peerage.

We now read that in a news interview he has suggested he could remain at the helm of the party even after a general election defeat.

petra Mon 08-Aug-16 20:01:30

Better late than never to come to that conclusion MOnica 100/1000s of us knew that a long long time ago.

kittylester Mon 08-Aug-16 20:07:10

What took you so long.confused

Ana Mon 08-Aug-16 20:07:21

And his long-awaited 'Ten Pledges' are actually eleven...don't let him loose on the economy if he ever gets into power!

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 20:24:55

I voiced my change of opinion of him some time ago, now I will repeat - he is a hypocrite, he mocked Cameron for appointing staff to the lords , said 'he has lots of friends ' then he sends Shami to the lords , she joined the party a few months ago, did a two month independent review into allegations of anti semitism in the party, declared the party clear and then gets into the lords , I am bloody furious, ashamed and disgusted .

I read a young girls post on Twitter - we are not a cult, we adore Jeremy and will follow him. Damn sickening , he is using these young people, i think he is either wicked or unbalanced , he doesn't give a damn about the party he is on a mega ego trip and destroying the party . We now have a tory government for at least ten years .

Shame on you Corbyn, you are not fit to speak Nye Bevans name

Iam64 Mon 08-Aug-16 20:44:43

I saw Jeremy, along with the other leadership contenders during the campaign which he won. I didn't vote for him but given the numbers who did, felt I should support him and give him six months to convince me I was wrong about him. I hung on for 8 months before finally concluding I don't trust him, don't believe he could ever win an election and also, don't believe he would be a good leader for the country.

I've joined Anniebach on a number of these threads which discuss him in expressing despair about what is happening to the Labour party. I don't think he's wicked or unbalanced Annie but I do believe he doesn't care whether he wins the next election. He seems to believe he's leading some kind of social movement. How he thinks that is going to change anything if Labour can't win an election I don't know but as I've said, I'm now convinced he doesn't care whether he wins the next election. He and John McDonell, Dianne Abbot and co. seem to live in a kind of haze, seeing themselves as all powerful and worse, as the only people in politics who have principles or morality. Hah!

Jane10 Mon 08-Aug-16 20:45:37

Its sad to hear that you've been so badly let down Anniebach. No one could ever doubt your faith in your party. Its a shame to see how things have degenerated so quickly. We need a strong coherent opposition.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 08-Aug-16 20:46:50

Wow Anniebach. You really meant that. sad

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 21:08:17

He stood in the spot in Merthyr where my ancestors stood during the Merthyr rising , do read Merthyr rising 1831, it was the start of the ref flag, people held a red flag and a loaf of bread because of the suffering they were enduring . The man should be given an Oscar,

The press reported several hundred turned up to hear Judas Corbyn, the population of Merthyr alone is 62,500 and considering there is such high unemployment not s great turn out .

Yes I am angry, this is 2016 not 1831 , it took untill 1900 before the Labour Party was formed by good, caring, honourable men, this judas doesn't care about the party , he just wants to be a leader , sod the poor, disabled, unemployed , judas is going to change the world from the oposition benches

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 21:09:25

Cameron had more principles than this judas

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 21:11:37

Jane, my faith is in what my party should be standing for ,

obieone Mon 08-Aug-16 21:23:08

He voted against the Labour party 500 times before? Was he ever really cheering for the Labour Party?

daphnedill Mon 08-Aug-16 21:26:24

I wouldn't go that far, anniebach. (about Cameron)

obieone Mon 08-Aug-16 21:27:50

The things is though, if he has say 2/3 of Labour Party support, who is the Labour Party? It could be argued that he is. confused

obieone Mon 08-Aug-16 21:29:17

It could be said that the Labour Party has lurched a lot further to the left? confused I am confusing myself!

Jomarie Mon 08-Aug-16 21:34:20

Anniebach I feel for you - my father was of the generation who voted labour for all its real life principles.

daphnedill Mon 08-Aug-16 21:42:36

Good question, obieone. He would appear to have the support of 2/3 of those eligible to vote in the leadership contest, but they're only a fraction of the people who are eligible to vote in an election and he doesn't have the confidence of the majority of his own MPs.

If Labour is ever to have a majority in the HoP, it needs to look at keeping the voters it already has and winning back huge numbers it's lost over the years. Even then, the loss of Scottish Labour MPs and boundary changes will probably mean that it will need to come to some kind of alliance with other parties.

phoenix Mon 08-Aug-16 21:46:04

He has the charisma and presence of a used tea bag, half of his shadow cabinet have no faith in him, he presents him self as a scruffy oik, (can you really see him as PM, engaging with other world leaders?)

I have very little time for those who say "I have always voted (fill as applicable) such as a woman interviewed on Radio 4 last week who said that she always voted Labour, but admitted that she had no idea what Corbyn's policies were confused shock

I rarely comment on politics, but surely Labour can come up with someone that has the support of key players, and at least might make a credible representative of the U.K on an international stage?

Tin helmet time!

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 21:48:51

Daphne, there isn't a hope of Labour gaining power , the country doesn't want to go back in years, this was how Mandalson and Blair won three elections, they moved centre not far left.

obieone Mon 08-Aug-16 21:51:18

A lot of Labour Party supporters didn't used to mind his used tea bag look. I wonder if they do now?!

I always think if people cannot bother to dress themselves appropriately for the job they are doing, they do not really care about what it is they are suuposed to represent.

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 21:51:38

The Labour party has several who would make good leaders, but Judas Corbyn is in the hands of Momentum which I now believe was set up to destroy the Labour Party

nigglynellie Mon 08-Aug-16 22:21:59

There seems no stopping him ab judging by the court ruling today. It's as if he's become a sort of cult among the young. It's weird and alarming, and heaven only knows what the end of it will be for the Labour party.

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 22:34:10

Niggly,i said some time ago there was a cult formed, people are voting believing if they have enough labour members voting for him he will win the general election, he is allowing, even strengthening this belief . He will win the leadership election but not a general election

Anniebach Mon 08-Aug-16 22:37:21

Jomarie , your father voted for socialist principles as do I,

petra Mon 08-Aug-16 22:41:33

But what if all these new members joined to get him out?

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