Traingate

Jen, how often hsve you trevslked by train from Ponty to Treorchy?

Nothing I can say if you choose not too believe me Jen, I have been to London and to York, I have never travelled from London to York . It has been claimed Corbyn had seats when people got off the train ,

What I'd say if I heard that the leader of the British Government opposition party sat on a train carriage floor all the way to Birmingham is that he was being silly and that there were probably other ways, less silly, to make his point about wanting the railways to be renationalised.

Especially as he obviously hadn't researched the sibject very well because of he had he'd have realised that people had to stand or sit on floors when the railways were nationalised so it clearly isn't nationalisation or lack of it that causes the problem.

What I'd also say is that it's hardly a top priority right now. Of course I allow that he may think it is. I'm just saying I don't agree with him. There are a few other pressing matters to deal with before that.

Kings Cross to York two hours, Annie, so the first stop was at 1.00 p.m., where people got off.
You can actually find this out yourself rather than being petty, but never mind.
I can't believe you do not know where York is, compared to London.

You Grscesgrsn, you pounce on most of my posts

How petty can you make this Annie? Who other than you actually cares?

If people got off at York why is it claimed the first stop was 1pm, I don't do geography, so York is less than 45 minutes from London?

How many were in the family who were upgraded, they made room for Corbyn, wife,his team and three others onbthecfloor?

Annie, you are getting more and more ridiculous.
It was a family upgraded to first class, not a couple. Perhaps you ought to read more carefully.
Can't imagine what you would say if he'd sat on the floor all the way to Newcastle.
There was a man on the radio this morning who said there were lots of seats on the train - after many had got off at York.
By that time, the staff had sorted out the seating.

Anya, when the line was taken back into public ownership, it made a profit. That's why Branson wanted to buy it back. We, the taxpayers, subsidise Branson's lifestyle.

Do you know that he didn't Ana?

There was allegedly a mother with two children , it was said on the news yesterday two people were upgraded , no matter how many, he is so against upgrading but has no problem with taking empty seats when other passengers were upgraded

I think it amusing he mocked Branson from taking a break from his holiday to respond to the allegations whilst he left his party to get on with the Brexit fight and took a holiday

Due to the the staff apparently giving some other passengers the upgrade to first class that Corbyn had of course refused! Weren't there any other people sitting on the floor that he should have made sure were seated before him...?

Baffling Tegan, cannot be claimed he is an honest politician , the Labour Party is against austerity, perhaps he had some strange appeal we can't see

Anyway, he changed his story this morning, he wanted two seats together , most odd, I didn't see his wife sitting next to him on the floor but he chose the floor because he couldn't find a seat where He could sit next to his wife . Then he is given seats for his wife, himself and his team .

One of the biggest problems I find are people who don't ever criticise their chosen political party, no matter what they do. The Labour Party has always been more likely to be critical of party members and their policies than the Conservatives so I'm surprised at the fact that corbyn is so much 'above/beyond reproach'. I'm very puzzled by it.

Not for me Elegran, but I accept politicians are human beings , not perfect . I so admire and respect Brown but have no problem in saying he can't do tv. I think Blair's government did much good but I was against the Iraq war. I defended Corbyn for inviting democratically elected Sin Fein politicians to Westminster , I criticise him for supporting militants and failing the party during the Brexit campaign

Yes. Quite. In short, they want censorship of anything they don't like or that opposes their holy point of view. Well, that idea can piss off as far as I'm concerned.

It seems some posters believe criticism and ridicule are only allowed if it is of politicians that they personally disapprove of. Their favourites are sacrosanct.

We're allowed to mock and laugh at politicians of any persuasion, whether we agree or disagree with their politics. It's one of the most important things about democracy, the ability to piss-take in total freedom.

Wonder how many people go straight to the food bar as soon as they get on the train

Corbyn said this morning there were no seats for him and his team, surely a group travelling together to an organised event and wanting to sit together to discuss the event would have thought of booking seats in advance , they can arrange rallies in the O2 and around the country but not a train journey

They have a website www.peoplesmomentum.com/ and on the first page are two big red links - one says "Join Momentum" the other says "Join the labour party" The links are of equal size (large), and the Momentum one is first. That sounds to me very like a political movement, not a made-up name.

I wonder why it is that ALL threads that have the least mention of a politician in them deteriorate into party mudslinging interspersed with grumpiness about how we are not taking things solemnly "seriously" enough? "News and politics" is a wide umbrella of subjects, but even posts under other topics than these attract the same posters wielding the same partisan hatchets.

And could the advocates of total devotion to solemn po-face-ity please bear in mind that cracking jokes in the tumbril on the way to the guillotine, or singing and dancing as they stand below the gallows tree is another good old tradition?

And your claim I started a pro Blair thread Pollrgrsn? I am not nit picking, I am objecting to a lie

I do not hate, hsve nevery known hate , I do know anger . I do not have to respect Corbyn to be a member of the Labour Party and again you are so wrong to say Momentum is a made up word, it is a far left political movement

What nobody seems to be getting is that people are looking for an alternative to the rubbish politicians we have been landed with for so long, whose policies are ensuring greater inequality, greater unfairness, and the sense that the poorer members are simply being ignored.

You are so right whitewave.

and another obieism

What's that supposed to mean? She didn't do it you know

Oh dear, Tegan. I have said it before and will no doubt say it again, attacking someone's sense of humour is the last stand of a bully. I expect he just doesn't share yours.

Was the @ a typo - if not you are wrong.

... and another obieism. Does what mean Owen Smith might win Obie?