Traingate

Anniebach renationalising the railways wouldn't cost anything it would be done as the franchises ran out.
But they don't all run out at the same time, so it would be a hotch-potch for many years.

I agree that we need a 'joined-up' (to coin a phrase) railway system, it seems to be very disjointed at the moment, like the curate's egg - good in parts.
However, t is not in the rundown state it was at the end of nationalisation despite carrying double the number of passengers.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31621300

But everyone reading this thread may not want to know Trisher , best you wonder , I don't want to be the cause of Eleothan getting so agitated and abusive yet again

For a bit of light relief and to get a runaway thread back on track

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFJ3KayeUTc

Anyone reading this Annie- but if you don't want to that's fine. I just wondered.

Who are 'us' Trisher ? a select few, all on this thread?

07.46 one.

Dbroon your post would have been more effective if you hadn't put the railway related bits in bold. Just left them for posters to pick up on themselves.

Just saying.

Anniebach renationalising the railways wouldn't cost anything it would be done as the franchises ran out. When the E.Coast line was run by the gov between franchises it made a large profit. Are you not in favour of a National Rain system? Could you actually tell us what Labour policies (nothing to do with Corbyn) you believe in?

Yawwnnn. Do excuse me Eleothan

anniebach What have I or durhamjen said to you that can be described as "bile"? I consider your calling people "morally bankrupt" "militants", "trots", "traitors" "groupies" "cult members", "people without principle who will destroy the party", etc. etc., to be nearer to that description.

You have been equally scathing of other people (who now, conveniently, choose to forget it). I think that likening Brexiters to members of Britain First, a far right racist organisation, as you did, is a good deal more insulting than any of the comments that I or durhamjen have made on here. (and I said so at the time, even though I - like you - voted Remain).

This thread has mostly consisted of people opposed to Corbyn agreeing with one another about how dishonest, stupid and generally dreadful he is and how sinister, corrupt, and underhand Momentum is. As soon as a few more people start to challenge some of the statements made, it is suggested that the thread has run its course or that the challengers are being aggressive.

did I type 1883? Hsve done same quite a few times and explained why , I apologise for my error .

Two wrongs dont make a right.-[dodgy groups assuming you are right nightowl, and removal of non-violence clause from momentum, though I dont think they have done any violence yet?].

Why do we need a seat ?

To be fair to dj(!!) I think she made that comment about age because ab mistakenly put 1883 instead of 1983! It was still a snide remark nevertheless!!

I consider Jens and Eleothans attacks on me typical of the bile which Corbyn brought into the party , very McDonaldish

What on earth are you talking about Annie? Here we go again, trots infiltrating the party, which under Blair was pure as the driven snow, get a grip for heavens sake. It's getting boring now. All the information about momentum and its draft code of ethics which included non violence which was then left out is out there if you bother to look. Unlike those other dodgy groups mentioned by Eloethan that are very secretive about their origins, funding and membership.

Yes including me roses but I am not suggesting ending it .

I thought DaphneBrooms post was a good distraction from some of the rather unpleasant comments here. EG durhamjen 23.45 yesterday to Anniebach "you're very old as well".
Most people on this site are beyond young, it's a grandparents forum. What on earth did that comment hope to say about Annie. Does passing a certain age mean your views on a party that's been part of your life for so long no longer count?
I lived through the wilderness years of the 80's as well. I worked with members of militant and other left groups, I have friendships with many of them but I didn't then and I wouldn't now want them running the country. Am I too old to have my views considered/

So Momentum threatened to remove their non violence clause , most interesting.

Jen you fought for the party in the eighties yet now support the people you fought , mmmmm

'All posters contributed to the deterioration' ? Including yourself f77ms ?

Corbyn made an idiot of himself with the train stunt, even if the thread is running out of steam. All change!
liked your post daphne..... It was only there for anyone with a sense of humour, but there are still a few of us left.

Well let's face it, it has moved a LONG way from OP's post. and has taken over the space left by the first "Beginning to distrust Jetemy Corbyn" thread.
Nothing to do with trains any more at all ???

I am not a member of any political party or anything remotely political. hth

Easy to do. No problem at all.

No, no one has to do that, but I didnt find it hard

I assume that some are not liking the fact that the anti Corbyn cult seems to be losing the argument but it is really not up to any one poster to decide when a thread should end .

Despite an `amusing` play on words I think all posters contributed to the deterioration.

Durhamjen Respect .

Eloethan Well said .

Do members on the right of the party have to make a public declaration that they are not members of Progress, Saving Labour, Labour Tomorrow - and all the other new and established groups whose principal objective at the moment is to oppose Corbyn?

It seems it is only OK to be a member of a group representing the right of the party - even when its founders and funders try to conceal their identity - but absolutely beyond the pale to belong to a group representing the left of the party.

This thread which started off amusingly enough is deteriorating into yet another ding dong/ ping pong .
I do think it should have run out of steam by now and hit the buffers before it got derailed.
But oh no, now it seems to picked up its own Momentum .
Surely, to continue paraphrase the awful jargon of the train companies (you know, the ones which talk about "station stops") and continue the equally awful series of puns, this train of thought should terminate here.