Brexit 3

X posts. I'm too slow at typing.

I had to check it wasn't a spoof
Dickie Bird is quite a common name, or often a nickname for people with the surname Bird.
I know at least one other Dickie Bird (and DH knew a couple more) - or is that name-dropping?

The UK can't 'leave' the EU completely. Even when we reclaim the laws and stop sending MEPs to Brussels, we cannot ignore the fact that we have a huge trading block on our doorstep, to whom nearly half our exports go. We can't ignore the fact that foreign companies have invested in the UK on the understanding that it's a gateway to the EU, nor can we ignore the fact that we have ex-pats living in the EU, who are currently receiving reciprocal healthcare.

It really isn't as easy as changing the colour of a passports or stopping those damned foreigners from coming to the UK.

Maybe somebody should ask Paul Simon to do an updated version of '50 ways to leave your lover'. There might not be 50 ways, but there is certainly more than one way. At the moment, people don't know what they voted for and the government seems muddled about it all too.

The demand Ana- is to leave the EU and put limits and controls on immigration- and at the same time have unlimited access to the EU markets without penalities or tariffs.

It is unreasonable, pie in the sky, and it was very clear from EU rules re negotiations in case one country leaves, right from the start and loooong before the vote. A leaving country has NO right to taking part in negotiations. Free movement of people is one of the absolute basic tenet of the EU agreement- why should all have to adhere to it- but not the UK. When the UK already managed to opt out of Euro and other parts.

Have you ever played cricket, or Monopoly - with different rules and different values for different players. Well, we all do with our grand-children, to some extent... perhaps- until they are about 5 or 6 ...

You can stand by your views all day long and till Kingdom comes Ana - but at the end of the day, the EU will decide, the UK is not allowed in the negotiations... and not the UK- and certainly not the Brexiters or you either - I'm afraid.

One thing I think that the Brexiters ought to think about is that no one person whether they voted in or out have exactly the same idea as to what Brexit ought to look like. The coterie plus one can't therefore make any assumption as to what Brexit means and they certainly weren't given a mandate of any sort, the vote was guidance only. The only possible way to determine this is for the whole of parliament to debate the issues and arrive at a negotiating stance that is deemed good for the UK.

Thank goodness the UK did manage to opt out of the euro!

granjura, neither will you nor the rest of the Remainers be allowed anywhere near the negotiations - I think we can certainly agree on that. What will be, will be.

We were inno position to join at the time! It was suggested that the UK would need the £ to fall till the Euro was worth 80p before it would be ready to join.

Maybe not Ana but we have Guy on our side now not allowing them to forget us!

£ still going down. Traders worried about a hard Brexit. The coterie can't stop yakking that's the trouble.

Ana- agreed- problem is, neither is the UK government.

Sorry Ana, but can you be more specific about 'chicken lickens' as not quite clear about your meaning? On the subject of chicken though, you'll be paying more for it soon, assuming you are not a Vegeterian! ??????????????

I am vegetarian. I accept I will will be paying more for my fruit and veg, which is annoying considering how many British farmers moved to Spain and France because of the longer growing season.

You could always google it, Tingleydancer.

Tingley you obviously missed out on the Ladybird book which some of us had the pleasure of reading 50+ times to one or more 2 year old. One of those repetitive traditional tales. Chick of nervous disposition gets hit on head by acorn and persuades flock of assorted poultry to "go and tell the king the sky is falling". I seem remember that Foxy Loxy puts them all out of their misery in the end.

Foxy, where are you???

youtu.be/ZNkXQYxfIlQ

and they all went to look for a Hard Brexit Deal ... and never ever found it. Juncker and all crunched the bones and spat out the feathers, whilst Little Britain continued to look for Pies in the Sky and Flying Pigs, oink, oink. And they were all in a mess, forever after.

And tonight, the £ hits the lowest ever.

Now, now granjura, you're being negative again! Think beautiful thoughts and little puppy dogs will come floating down on fluffy clouds to make everything wonderful in Neverland.....

But if we commission a nice new Royal Yacht that will solve all our problems as the royals do their bit for the economy and trade ministers to swill champagne.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/21/royal-yacht-britannia-should-not-rise-again
Prince Andrew must have been on the edge of his seat listening to the debate
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/20/duke-brokered-385m-for-corrupt-regime-while-working-as-british-t/

170 questions -about time!!! It is now time for everyone to step up and defend the democratic process in parliament. Policy behind locked doors is for countries like Russia and North Korea not the UK

I include the Tory MPs in that

Badenkate- now to make me happy I just grabbed a little pussy (his name is Minou - foreign of course).

granjura ...... you are sounding more like Mrs Slocombe than usual.

Now you will have to educate me ... not a clue who she is ;)