Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

I repeat - I do not have ALL the answers but I do have experience of canvassing in constituencies which are considered target seats and I know the responses when asking for their vote . I also live in a constituency which was labour for many years, untill the boundary changes, since it has gone then Tory, Libs , Tories, Libs, it is now Tory . I think next time it will go lib, some labour members have left the party and are goIng lib .

If anyone wants the views of voters get out into Tory and Lib marginals , best not to accuse the voter of ranting if they don't fall to their knees at the mention of the name Corbyn

There is also the threat of UKIP

Corbyn has angered the Welsh Labour Party, he has refused to allow our leader to choose a Welsh person to sit on the NEC . Revenge for not having the support of the Welsh government during the leadership election perhaps, he and Caerwen do not get on anyway

Maybe time to stop stirring it now anniebach and respond to the calls for unity?
I am not aware of anyone in my CLP who has joined momentum. But we do want to stop the squabbling and get on with fighting the tories.

Because I speak of the snub to the Welsh .government I am stirring ?

Who mentioned Momentum and the CL P?

Talk of the north of England is permitted but mention Wales and it's stirring

Very controlling, mmmmm

Unity? when the only country in the UK which has a labour government isn't allowed to be spoken of

Calls for unity from the group that caused the problem. I know the scenario well.
Next step - there will be calls from them to say that they can be trusted.

And fancy asking Anniebach if she is really a Labour Party member. What a cheeky post.

rather amusing Obieone, demanding unity, new definition of democracy ! We demand unity , very Putin

The Welsh Labour leader also appeared scornful of suggestions from within Labour in recent months that the party could form electoral pacts with other left-of-centre parties, including Welsh nationalists Plaid Cymru.

“Politics in Wales is not as tribal, because the nature of the Assembly’s electoral system means we have to work with other parties in a way that isn’t really required most of the time in Westminster,” he said, but added: “Electoral pacts are tougher. Who would have an electoral pact with? Making coalitions and arrangements after an election is legitimate. The public would expect parties, if they don’t have a majority, to talk to other parties.”

This is Carwyn Jones talking to Labourlist.

It's quite strange, really, because the only reason he is the leader of the Assembly is because of a pact with Plaid Cymru.

'John McDonnell and several Owen-Smith backing Labour figures such as Chuka Umunna have called for party unity.

At last night’s LabourList rally Umunna, former shadow business secretary, emphatically encouraged Labour MPs and members who didn’t support Jeremy Corbyn in the leadership election to stay in the party. Umunna said a split would not solve Labour’s problems. His thoughts were echoed by Wes Streeting MP who said Labour must find a way to come together.'

Can't see the word 'demand' here.

The leader of the Welsh government didn't support either Corbyn or Smith in the leadership contest, this is how fair Welsh Labour leader is , seems England could learn from Wales

You are breaking new rules speaking of Wales , it's now considered stirring

Little englanders yet again

Strange new rules. You are allowed to talk of England, but I am not allowed to talk of Wales.
Some of my family live there. They would be most upset if I wasn't allowed to talk to them about politics.

English Corbyn supporter new rule

Who is a little Englander?
You are getting pathetic now, Annie.

What are you going to do if there is a snap election next year? Corbyn will still be leader.

Are you a closet Labour member, obie?
You seem to know a lot about the party.

I am a European, Annie. I am not telling Welsh people they can't talk about other parts of the UK or the EU.

"Corbyn will still be leader" true, but will still be leader of the opposition.

I was asking Annie if she would go out and knock on doors for the Labour party, knowing he was still the leader. Of course he would still be leader of the opposition. I don't think paarties change in between elections.

by asking if I would canvas for any particular party you are realy asking me how I will vote, not the correct way to garner votes, a cavasser asks for support not asks - who are you voting for. Being polite may have become alien to some

If dj and Anniebach fall out, there is no hope for the Labour Party.

IF...???

DJ and I have not fallen out, our posts show how the Labour party is truely divided.

the far left and left of centre at their best - or worse ?

Oh, good to know you and durhamjen haven't fallen out, Annie. It's sometimes hard to tell...

Why when I ask about policies do you fall back on calling Corbyn names Anniebach I am really interested to know what the right wing of the Labour party want to do. Surely if you knocked on my door canvassing you would have a reply ready.

That is what I am really really interested in knowing, because policies are the bedrock of ant political party.

Can anyone from the Labour Party who would prefer a different leader to Corbyn please explain the differences in the policies each side would support?

This in my view is the most important issue, so I so hope someone can compare and contrast the two.