Jeremy Corbyn's favourite biscuit

I could have probably put that better, but you know what I mean.

just in case anyone had a vision of a crazy professor type sitting in a brothel

Well said Ramblingrose I agree with all your post

Trisher Having an allotment and being anti sugar dies not equal healthy eating.

Many eat healthily without having an allotment , and I know an alcholic who has an allotment, no one can say he is anti sugar , he drinks cider

I don't dunk ginger nuts, just the choc digestives; might give the ginger nuts a go. I'm not miserable all of the time just don't smile as much as I used too (always smile when dunking though).

No, I think you put that very well gillybob; "a vision of a crazy professor type sitting in a brothel" never crossed my mind, until you mentioned it of course.

Wait for it, I don't eat biscuits , not anti sugar , anti wheat

Oh, does that mean you never dunk Anniebach?

My homemade ginger biscuits are pretty good too. Also endorsed by my professional cook friend ?
Good dunked too.

The man lacks certain social graces/manners.

Can you really imagine him in a key role, conversing with world leaders?

Smiless , nothing to dunk, oh now I miss ginger nuts

phoenix please list behaviour that shows Corbyn lacks social graces or manners. He has already traveled extensively as an MP and met very many people from different cultures.
I know many people eat healthily without an allotment Anniebach you do sometimes have to state the obvious. I also know many people with allotments who are very keen on eating fresh, organic produce. Do the people I know cancel out your alcoholic?

does not cancel out the alcholic - he isn't my alcholic trisher - your 'and he has an allotment' was the weakest explanation for proof a person is a healthy heater I have ever come across

Anniebach

Makes one weep Smileness

The remark about Corbyn being an "oik" reeks of snobbery because the majority of dictionary definitions refer to an implied link between class and loutishness:

"A rude and unpleasant man from a low social class" (Cambridge)

"An offensive way of referring to a person that you consider rude or stupid, especially a person of a lower social class" (Oxford)

"derogatory slang: A person regarded as inferior because ignorant, ill-educated or lower class" (Collins)

My own view is that there is plenty of loutish, anti-social behaviour displayed by those who don't consider themselves to be "oiks" and who in fact consider themselves to be vastly superior to the average person in the street.

The Bullingdon Boys are well known for their loutish and disrespectful behaviour. In Cornwall the police issued a warning to some of the country's top public schools - including Marlborough, Winchester, Eton and Harrow - that many resident complaints had been received about their pupils' behaviour. This included drunkeness, urinating in people's gardens, slashing car tyres, intimidating residents, drug use, etc. One young man responded: "I think people down here would suffer if it was not for the tourist trade and they can't have the best of everything".

And, by the way, I temped for a City solicitor who expressed to me the view that anybody who hadn't graduated from Oxbridge or equivalent was an "oik" whose c.v. should be consigned, unread, to the wastepaper bin. Apart from being unquestionably small-minded and elitist, to make such a statement to a temp who was highly unlikely to be an Oxbridge graduate is, I think, the height of rudeness.So, folks, unless you have had an Oxbridge education, or the right "connections", bear in mind that some people may categorise you as an "oik".

I have not seen Corbyn being rude or offensive or ridiculing or belittling anybody. He always seems perfectly polite and surprisingly good tempered for somebody who is constantly subjected to the sort of irrationality and pettiness that some have demonstrated on here.

The Cornish problem has been around for a number of years. To be honest I am not sure that it is possible to separate the sort of behaviour displayed by Eton yobs from state educated yobs. They are all unpleasant. They simply do it with different accents. But they are essentially indistinguishable in their behaviour.

With regard to this thread? Hmm.

What Cornish problem, whitewave?

I don't think Corbyn is an oik but I did think the comment saying he was one was funny. It came from the heart and I interpreted it as meaning that he'd be useless as prime minister even if he ever got to that position, which is doubtful. It is doubtful not because of his class background, whatever that was. It's doubtful because he is a politician of protest, not a politician of government. THAT is the problem that Corbynistas don't seem to think matters.

I think people who keep going on about Oxbridge alumni are being reverse snobs and showing their ignorance. I think they have a false view of what most of Oxford University is like and what most Oxford undergraduate and graduate students are like, never mind the academic staff. Most people in Oxford don't know anyone of the Bullingdon yob type, not surprising since they are a tiny tiny tiny proportion of the only male population. I'm beginning to think that people who keep banging on about the Bullingdon Club are ill-informed and very prejudiced.
Like all good universities, the important thing about Oxford and Cambridge is their academic strength. Wish people'd shut the fuck up about bloody Bullingdon. In twenty uears I never met a single Bullingdon type in Oxford. I did meet and have friends among intelligent people from all over the world as well as from all over Britain, with backgrounds as divers as being asylum seekers when they first arrived here to people from ordinary middle class families. Those are the vast majority at Oxbridge.

Time for people to get over Bullingdon. Even people like Cameron and Johnson who belonged to it are not bad people. They want to do good in the world. I can see that and say that even when I don't agree with their political outlook. So can anyone not carrying a great big grudge and who actually knows what Oxbridge is like.

Corbyn always seem polite and good tempered? All his interviews are recorded , all questions are to presented to him before the interview, good grief he had to read his notes when in a debates with Smith.

Apologies whitewave I have just found the Cornish reference, - presumably posh kids surfing at Rock, Newquay etc. I always thought that was post GCSE myself. On the other hand you could have been referring to the MUCH more serious issue of the Devon/Cornwall dispute over whether the clotted cream or the jam goes on to the scone FIRST in a cream tea

thatbags Referring to somebody as an "oik" is snobbish and so is saying that no consideration should be given to applicants who graduate from anywhere but Oxbridge. "Reverse snobbery" would be to characterise all "working class" people in idealised terms - as "the salt of the earth" and innately superior to more privileged people.

I'm not quite sure why I should "shut the fuck up about bloody Bullingdon" - I seem to have hit a nerve! For someone who is always going on about the right of people to express their opinions without other people "jumping" on them, your reaction is rather surprising. Anyway, most of my comments referred to a report about what happened in Padstow and the surrounding area.

The fact remains that there are badly behaved, ignorant and loutish people in all echelons of society and to imply that such behaviour is mostly confined to people from less privileged backgrounds is just plain snobbery.

Oh the joy of bread jam and cream for breakfast! Mum always made our cream by scalding the milk and letting it stand overnight particularly in summer to stop it from going sour.
The fashion to go to Cornwall in the summer has waxed and waned over the years amongst the wealthy group. They now pay vast sums of money to buy into and crowd into places like Rock. No problem with that as they bring tourist trade. Just wish they'd do it quieter. You can't hear yourself think in pubs at times. Why do they talk at such extraordinary decibels?

He's not an oik.

Rock is a totally unattractive little place anyway. Leave it to the posh kids.

Yes - it was probably the golf course that attracted them in the 20s then the opportunity to sail on the Camel estuary. Rock used to be just a landing stage from Padstow - still is really with a few posh delis and restaurants thrown in.

I blame Betchemin (spelling?) myself.

Errmm...think I've missed something. Who described Corbyn as an 'oik'?

phoenix did daphnedill.
It is interesting that people think it is better to have a politician from a certain class as a leader. Evidence I suppose that the habit of touching the forelock to one's betters is somehow still in existence.