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International Peace Day

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grannyactivist Tue 20-Sept-16 20:55:18

Some of you may remember that on this day each year I wear my white 'peace poppy'. Does anyone else mark the day?
www.un.org/en/events/peaceday/index.shtml

grannyactivist Wed 21-Sept-16 23:15:08

The day for me is one of reflection and positive action - I gave a talk today about peace and as an illustration I described how, as a family, we responded to my son in law being killed in action in Afghanistan by fostering two Afghan teenagers. You can call it posing or virtue signalling jingl - but my (albeit limited) understanding of 'virtue signalling' is that the term is applied to people who talk about, but take take no action in, making things better. There is a clue in my name; I would say that I am a peace activist jingl - and marking this day is part of my activism.

grannyactivist Wed 21-Sept-16 23:17:55

Sorry; I forgot to answer the question about where the money from sales pf peace poppies go.
'Money raised over and above the cost of producing, publicising and distributing the poppies goes to fund our education and campaigning work, thus promoting nonviolent approaches to conflict and challenging militarism.'
www.ppu.org.uk/whitepoppy/01white_faq.html

grannyqueenie Wed 21-Sept-16 23:25:24

You're an inspiration grannyactivist

Tegan Thu 22-Sept-16 00:01:18

Very much so....

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 07:36:16

I'm all for action where one can make a difference for others. Not so keen on the talking bit. It seems a bit missionary-like and I'm never sure enough that my viewpoint is the right one to start trying to get others to join in the activism by doing stuff like giving talks.

I still love my convent school motto: Action Not Words. I suppose the nuns thought praying was action too, though I have never thought that. Deep thought and meditation maybe... if it helps one to get off one's butt and do stuff.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 14:06:07

I hope your talk about peace did some good grannyactivist. I, however, believe that there can come a time when war is necessary.

I myself like that saying, "The greatest pleasure in life is to do good by stealth and have it discovered by accident". Nonetheless, congratulations on all the amazing good things you do. flowers

merlotgran Thu 22-Sept-16 14:45:48

ga, Changing the subject slightly. How did you feel when your daughter married a military man? I only ask because I come from a military family on one side and pacifists on the other. It has led to discord in the past which is in danger of rearing up again now that our eldest DGS is thinking of following his father into the Navy.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 15:07:30

grannyactivist may I ask you if you know what the the white poppy people suggest doing about the destruction of Syria and it's occupants, and the likelihood of the same thing happening to Yemen?

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 17:10:06

Hear, hear to Alexander Pope's "Do good by stealth and blush to find it fame".

It seems advertising one's doing good is the fashion now though. That doesn't sit well with me and I can't help thinking "virtue signalling" (it's like an ear worm that phrase!) when I encounter it. That and "blatant attention-seeking".

Sorry, but that's the truth, especially on a public forum like gransnet. Talking to one's very close friends about what one's doing is different and okay, I reckon.

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 17:17:58

Nothing against promoting International Peace Day, btw, but in a more general and non-personal way such as telling people when it is, what events are on and why.

Like jings though, I think that unfortunately there are times when military action is the only option. Extremists do not want to negotiate; they want to cause mayhem, terror and destruction and to sieze power.

dramatictessa Thu 22-Sept-16 17:23:01

jingl maybe the white poppy people would suggest that we don't sell arms to the Saudis or anyone else for that matter?

rosesarered Thu 22-Sept-16 17:23:02

Wearing white poppies accomplishes nothing.

rosesarered Thu 22-Sept-16 17:23:55

Though I have no objection to anyone wearing one, or wearing anything else, for that matter.

dramatictessa Thu 22-Sept-16 17:28:20

Symbols don't accomplish anything on their own, it's what they stand for that is important. If they were worthless, there would be no corporate branding of anything - cars, political parties, charities, the list is endless. If by wearing the white poppy ga has made even one person question the reasons why, then it has achieved something. A drop in the ocean maybe, but definitely something.

Ana Thu 22-Sept-16 17:29:21

Agree with your post of 17.10 thatbags. I'd also add all those 'signed' posts re petitions.

Of course it's fine to post a link to a peition, but we don't need to know who's signed it, or who signed it ages ago somewhere else and it won't let them sign twice...hmm

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 17:31:00

I agree with your post, dramatic.

rosesarered Thu 22-Sept-16 17:36:30

Have to say though, I have never seen anyone at all wearing a white poppy....ever.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:42:37

Yes. That'll fix it, just like that Dramatictessa.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:43:52

"A drop in the ocean" really won't do it.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:46:09

Oh shite! The 'Pollyanna' thread's been deleted!

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:46:33

Back to this thread! Sorry.

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 17:56:06

If we all pee in the ocean it could add up.
Although I can tell who wouldn't.

The money from buying white poppies goes to spread the word of all the peace groups.

What's wrong with people like grannyactivist reminding people that it is International Peace Day on a forum like this?
I seem to recall that's exactly what those of us who wear white poppies were told to do, to wear it on International Peace Day and not on Armistice Day.

merlotgran Thu 22-Sept-16 17:57:21

The 'Pollyanna' thread's been deleted!

Sigh

Been in the garden this afternoon so didn't read any of the more recent posts but I'm getting sick and tired of being treated like a five year old.

Ana Thu 22-Sept-16 18:00:53

Yes, they're really getting controlling over at GNHQ these days aren't they?

It'll soon be 'only fluffy threads allowed'...

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 18:13:08

British forces have been involved in one conflict or another every year since 1914.
Time for peace?