International Peace Day

Can't believe what this thread has turned into. Can only agree with what Jess has written.

Feel rather ashamed of this forum at this moment in time.

I thought I had made my "argument" quite clear.

Oh yes. Hello Saint Tegan.

Why would you feel ashamed of this forum? Is it yours personally?

Er, no. It sets an example to others. It suggests ways for for further action and enables those who are isolated, either geographically or socially, to know that they are not alone.

What "sets an example to others"?

That was probably to me. But the 'Er, no' rather puts me off bothering to reply.

"And I still think to mention International Day of Peace at such a time, was not the most well thought out thing ever."

If it's not appropriate to talk about peace at a time of terrible strife, jingl, when is it appropriate?

Granny activist was certainly not signalling virtue. I have followed what she has written about her daughter and then her fostering of young boys with sorrow and admiration over the years.
I am so glad to see Micelf posting again and hope Hymnself is well.

It seems to be a travesty.

Almost like spitting in their eye.

Yes. We've all read what she's written about it over the years.

And it's amazingly admirable.

Sharing what we do for our causes, whatever they are, can encourage others to do the same. Posting insensitive comments about an inoffensive OP can also encourage others to do the same. The first is infinitely preferable.

So why do you have to knock it jingl? There are some types of person who take delight in mocking and belittling the efforts and achievements of others.
Is it so very hard to admit that someone has made their own personal contribution to the bastard situation of the conflicts iin Syria or Afghanistan?
Ga can't solve the whole war but she has made an enormous difference for two people.
There is a time and a place for cheap laughs and this is not it.

Why not?

(" and this is not it.")

I haven't noticed any cheap laughs on this thread.

Because lobbing gratuitous insults (Saint Tegan )or heavy sarcasm about granny activist simply shows a poverty of spirit.
Joking about peace or someone whose DD lost her husband, who has responded to violence with real charity? Why not go,the whole hog and just have a good old laugh about Aleppo while you are at it.

"Why not go,the whole hog and just have a good old laugh about Aleppo while you are at it."

Beneath contempt.

Jinglebellfrocks I don't understand why you had to put a grin after over the years. If you were being unpleasant about granny activist or my comment they please say so. You weep and wail over children drowning or wounded children in the bombing of Aleppo on Gransnet but mock others trying maybe ineffectually who wear a white poppy . Perhaps if I said weeping and wailing on the internet was trying to make people think what a caring person you are but then surely actions speak louder than words and fostering children from the war zone is infinitely more worthwhile than saying how upset you are about children in Aleppo.

Thank you stansgran you have put it in a nutshell.
Not beneath my contempt jingl for the belittling of ga's efforts to make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to her young people and your dismissal of efforts for peace. Not "crass" or " virtue signalling" . However, enjoy your s and expletives, you are welcome to them.

Yes. Infinitely more worthwhile. (Although I don't remember the "weeping and wailing")

Don't worry about not understanding why I put the grin.

Flip me! Any more coming out of the woodwork?

Well, I'm not on my own, jingl.

Oh dear - what a tangle.

I do not think that the wearing of a white poppy has no value; but simply that the current world situation is so overwhelmingly dreadful that it feels such a small thing.

But I also agree that awful behaviour is part of the human condition - when I look back and think about the news that has flashed past my eyes during my lifetime, Biafra, the IRA, the Bade-Meinhoff gang and so much more, it seems that terrorism and war have always (and likely always will be) with us.

I wish that wearing a white poppy would change that in some way. Let us hope that the Peace Pledge Union can do some good work - I wish them well, but in my heart I think they are no match for the vested business interests that fuel the arms trade with the collusion of the politicians.