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Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

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POGS Thu 06-Oct-16 19:48:07

Well this could be interesting.

Rosie Winterton sacked from Chief Whips position and Nick Brown back in the Cabinet again. Baroness Shami Chakrabarti has done very well since joining Labour she is now Shadow Attorney General and Dianne Abbot Shadow Home Secretary, Dawn Butler Shadow Minority Ethnic Communities, Sarah Champion Shadow Women and Equalities Minister and Jo Stevens Shadow Secretary of State for Wales.

It will be interesting to see if any who signed 'No Confidence' in Corbyn can/will be in Corbyn's reshuffled Cabinet Team. Time for 'Unity'?

Im68Now Fri 07-Oct-16 09:55:51

I don't think the labour party know what hypocrisy is, mind you theirs just as much hypocrisy with the tories. I'm glad I don't have to make my mind up yet.

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 09:59:11

And Corbyn is surely the biggest hypocrite, he divorces wife no 2 for choosing a grammer school for their son and appoints Shami , Thornberry and Abbot into top positions in the shadow cabinet

petra Fri 07-Oct-16 10:05:28

Annibach sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I meant Corbyn and all his fawning acolytes.

Jalima Fri 07-Oct-16 10:20:57

Wife No. 2 may be glad now that she is the ex-Mrs C and out of the limelight.

As MIL used to say: 'Labour is all about "Do as I say and not as I do"' ie hypocritical.

Are these token appointments for the sake if diversity and equality or are they the best he could choose?

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 10:23:02

Thanks Petra, I agree with you, and not because I am anti Corbyn . I have said I was widowed young with two little girls, I was offered places for them in the Convent school, couldn't have afforded the fees and was not R C, it was an act of Christian love from the Nuns, I refused and my girls went to the Comp . Years later I was asked by the priest of the boys public school here - yes he was a friend smile to put my grandson forward to sit the scholarship exam , we refused .

nigglynellie Fri 07-Oct-16 10:24:09

I've noticed that there's a trend amongst these particular labour MPs to blame their partners for the choice of school for their children!! As if that somehow exonerates them from any responsibility?!! I can't really believe that where you send your child to school can be the only issue to break up a marriage!!! Wonder why Shami couldn't manage Eton for her son and had to settle for Dulwich College?! Shame really, particularly as it's Nigel Farage's alma mater!!!

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 10:26:58

Jalima, he had very few to choose from , I am waiting for Abbot or McDonald to become deputy leader if Corbyn can get shot of Tom Watson , he is on the hit list

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 10:33:04

Niggly, Abbot's son claimed it was his choice not his mother's !

trisher Fri 07-Oct-16 10:43:19

Can't win can you? Appoint a lot of women to cabinet and you need in some way to be surrounded by their acclimation, don't appoint them and you are sexist. Join the Labour party with a wealth of knowledge and experience of human rights issues and you should stand in line, not be appointed to a post you are well suited for. Send your kids to private schools something most of middle England aspire to (and which is the section your party is supposed to need to win an election) and you will be upsetting the working class vote. Meanwhile Mrs May firmly occupies the centre ground with a lot of unsubstantiated rhetoric.

JessM Fri 07-Oct-16 10:49:44

Talk about misogyny folks.
I presume you have now resigned as a member of the Labour Party Annie?

TerriBull Fri 07-Oct-16 10:50:50

I'm a simple soul and I don't come on GN every day, so quite possibly I've missed some of the discussions on education. I have voted Labour in the past, last time when Tony Blair was the "great hope for the future" before we found out what he was really like. My understanding of a socialist ethos would be that any committed socialist would want a level playing ground for all and thefore education would be pivotal in achieving that, surely those in key positions in the party should sign up lock stock and barrel to that premise and I imagine most do. Shami Chakrobati, may be a little woman physically, but a little woman in every other sense she aint, so I'm not buying into her explanation that her ex husband was solely responsible for their son's education, it's a convenient way of absolving herself for an inconveient choice that is at odds with her political views, and, imo it really is as the great (in the physical sense) Diane Abbott said when she was outed over her choice "I can't defend the indefensible" Didn't she want to abolish private/selective schools once?

Labour - I would also expect them to defend the rights of minorities, but they seem now to exclude our beleaguered Jewish community. Reading accounts of some of the abuse Jewish female MPs have suffered of late, I find truly shocking, particulary within a party who I imagine see themselves at the fore of progressive politics. Similarly there are those in the party who used Angela Eagle's sexuality against her before she dropped out of the leadership race, which is again very puzzling, I wouldn't expect those retrograde attitudes not to have any place in the leading party of the left. Yes no doubt this has been discussed ad infinitum but as I said I only come on intermittently so I've missed it all.

Annie you mentioned Emily Thornberry and the "white van" debacle, her comment "I've never seen anything like it" and then she kind of back tracked and by saying it was just an observation she didn't mean it disparagingly but everyone knew what she meant, similarly with Shami's "don't leave me alone with Essex man", it's their gut feeling, what comes out first is often what a person really feels and apologies might follow, but once it's out it's out. What amazes me that they are in public life, but haven't learn to reign in their indiscretions, but probably that could be applied to all political persuasions to be fair. Going back to Labour, it does seem unfortunate for them, that their elite simply cannot hide their contempt for the likes of "white man van" yet these are supposed to be the very people that would have once been their core voters.

Since it's inception way back at the beginning of the 20th century, there would have been umpteen times I think Labour would have been the only credible party to try and create a more equal society. I also think that any democracy needs a feaasible opposition, whoever happens to be in government will always need to be held to account.

Seasidenana Fri 07-Oct-16 10:51:26

Reading the comments on this thread I do wonder why anyone would stand for politics given the flack people get for trying to do what they think is best for their country and for people. The media prints a lot of biased criticism which people seem to believe without question. Poor Jo Cox even got murdered just trying to do her job.

I take my hat off to people in public service doing their best. It's a thankless task.

TerriBull Fri 07-Oct-16 11:01:01

I don't think it's a thankless task for all. I think both Blair and Cameron always had an eye to the future and the possible lucrative deals lined up after they had left office.

trisher Fri 07-Oct-16 11:03:55

TerriBull there has always been a vociferous section of the working class who have had very right wing views and the Labour party has always distanced itself from that section. Perhaps if they would stand proudly for their beliefs they would do better than by trying to ingratiate themselves with white van man.

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 11:03:57

Since when has knowledge of human rights made anyone more qualified to carry out an enquiry into accusations of racism .

Corbyn and Shami are both against the House of Lords , Corbyn appoints Shami to the House of Lords after a few weeks work for the party .

Good grief my husband was invited to join the Freemasons to further his career , he was against the Freemasons so refused .

spabbygirl Fri 07-Oct-16 11:06:35

Hypocrisy = Theresa May saying on weds that they want to listen to people & on Thurs overturning a village's vote not to have fracking in their area.

The media print very biased stuff against Corbyn cos if elected he will collect the taxes properly from the likes of the owners of The Mail & The Sun, they really don't want him in no. 10.

Marriages end for all sorts of little, personal reasons, unless he beat his wife or similar its too personal to be made private.

I think JC is great, I like his new cabinet & am fed up with hearing those who moan, I just want them to get on & oppose the tories.

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 11:07:08

TerriBull, I don't think Blair did have an eye on after his political career when he became leader of the party

trisher Fri 07-Oct-16 11:09:58

Anniebach I thought about replying to you, but I know that you always refuse to consider any other opinions, you so dislike Shami and Corbyn, that nothing they do could satisfy you.

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 11:10:05

Jess I am a member of the Labour Democratic Party not the momentum Militant party , big difference

nigglynellie Fri 07-Oct-16 11:12:25

Yes ab, I remember reading that about DA's son! I gathered he was 11 at the time!!! My son was desperate to go to the Grammar School, but sadly for him, it didn't exist any more and unlike DA the funds weren't there to send him privately, so he had to be told that he couldn't. He also was 11 at the time, and faced with no choice, capitulated fairly easily as 11 year olds usually do!!

trisher Fri 07-Oct-16 11:14:50

OMG Annie you have been conned. Read Machiavelli's The Prince Blair\s career is a living example of his ideas put into practice. He always knew where he was going.

sue1169 Fri 07-Oct-16 11:18:14

-hes a champagne socialist!!!he has absolutely no idea about working class life!!!!

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 11:22:11

trisher,you are so wrong, it is you who refuses to consider any other opinions , you have no problem with Corbyn being a Militant, I do . You would choose Corbyn to remain leader and labour not win an election, I would not.

For me I want labour to take the centre ground, win the election and help the vunerable , thry matter to me

JessM Fri 07-Oct-16 11:24:08

Anniebach what are you talking about? You present yourself on here as a long termmember of the Labour Party - or have I got that completely wrong?
Rumour has it that Blair, when a student, decided to go into politics before deciding which party to join.
Rumours of his return to mainstream politics (on radio this morning) only serve to emphasise that he is living in a parallel universe in which he is the messiah.

radicalnan Fri 07-Oct-16 11:29:51

Wonder how long any of this will last?

Ghastly Diane Abbot?????? She must have been good at something when they had their fling.