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Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

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POGS Thu 06-Oct-16 19:48:07

Well this could be interesting.

Rosie Winterton sacked from Chief Whips position and Nick Brown back in the Cabinet again. Baroness Shami Chakrabarti has done very well since joining Labour she is now Shadow Attorney General and Dianne Abbot Shadow Home Secretary, Dawn Butler Shadow Minority Ethnic Communities, Sarah Champion Shadow Women and Equalities Minister and Jo Stevens Shadow Secretary of State for Wales.

It will be interesting to see if any who signed 'No Confidence' in Corbyn can/will be in Corbyn's reshuffled Cabinet Team. Time for 'Unity'?

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 21:53:27

Ana look at the anti-semetic incidents in the 27 racial link. Shouldn't they have been properly looked at and shouldn't Pickles at least have known about the UCL incident? Or doesn't it matter because it's the Conservative Party?
POGS Ummuna and Winnick are both members of Progress and have spoken out against Corbyn. Naz Shah isn't a signatory because she was a witness. A Lib Dem or a Green party MP might have added some political balance to this committee. Even if you accept that these MPs have tried to be unbiased when producing this report in not commenting on the Conservatives they have provided a basis for criticism. Justice must not only be done it must be seen to be done.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 21:53:08

To my knowledge Berger has never been mentioned on this thread , perhaps I missed some posts, poor Ruth Smeeth has received thousands of vile mails, suppose being bullied by a Corbyn supporter at the release of the anti Semitic enquiry results and shown on the news plus Corbyn shown laughing with the bully following the incident could have encouraged Corbyn devotees to act

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 21:42:12

Of what relevance is that link to this thread?

durhamjen Sun 16-Oct-16 21:38:37

Attacks on Jewish MPs?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/27/internet-troll-jail-violent-antisemitic-threats-labour-mp-luciana-berger

There are no links to Labour members attacking Berger.

POGS Sun 16-Oct-16 21:37:35

trisher

"Have you looked at the composition of the Committee? It has 6 Conservative members, 3 Labour and 1 SNP, no Greens, no Liberals, no UKIP. So it is not in effect an All Party committee."

Member Party Constituency
Tim Loughton MP
(Chairman (Acting))ConservativeEast Worthing and
Shoreham
Victoria Atkins MPConservativeLouth and Horncastle
James Berry MPConservativeKingston and Surbiton
David Burrowes MPConservativeEnfield Southgate
Nusrat Ghani MPConservativeWealden
Ranil Jayawardena MPConservativeNorth East Hampshire

Vacancy

Stuart McDonald MPScottish National PartyCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East
Naz Shah MP Labour Bradford West
Chuka Umunna MP Labour Streatham
David Winnick MPLabour Walsall North

The Vacant position was Labour MP Keith Vaz who resigned for obvious reasons.

As for The Greens, their 1 MP Caroline Lucas sits on The Environmental Audit Select Committee. The SNP have representation on many Select Committees. The Lib Dems have only 8 MP's yet there are 4 Select Committees with Lib Dem MP's serving. The 1 UKIP MP as far as I know has no representation on any Select Committee.(mind you with PR they probably would).

If you feel the Select Committee is not represented by the parties you mentioned do you honestly expect The Greens, UKIP, The SNP MP's should sit on 'every' Select Committee or the findings and eventual reports are what in your mind Bias, Unworthy, Disreputable ?

Ridiculous.

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 21:31:53

(My reply was to trisher)

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 21:30:39

It was proper that Corbyn attended, as it was his party the allegations were primarily about.

durhamjen Sun 16-Oct-16 21:29:58

'The failure of the Labour Party to deal consistently and effectively with antisemitic incidents in recent years risks lending force to allegations that elements of the Labour movement are institutionally antisemitic.'

From the report.
Obviously talking about before Corbyn was leader. So why is Miliband not criticised, or Brown or even, dare I say it, Blair?

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 21:27:50

But he wasn't invited May was. If Corbyn had sent someone else would that have been OK?

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 21:26:21

I agree and I think the report would have much more value and would be much more easily accepted if they had actually said this. I have no objection to them criticising Corbyn,but I do think there should be some reference to May and the Conservative party and Pickle's ignorance about the UCL incident. It is about balance.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 21:25:00

I Posted before reading your last post trisher, Pickles was the correct person to speak for his party, special envoy for post holocaust issues , who better

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 21:21:21

I don't deliberately mis- read , just as I don't avoid questions . She should have attended , she could have taken a legal adviser with her as Corbyn did

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 21:16:13

Well, that seems fair enough.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 21:11:57

To be exact
We later invited the new Prime Minister on several occasions to give evidence to us in October, but received no formal response until the morning of the scheduled evidence session, when Sir Eric Pickles MP, the UK Special Envoy for Post-Holocaust Issues and former Party Chairman, was nominated to attend as a representative of the Conservative Party.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 21:07:52

May was asked after she became leader- are you deliberately mis-reading or do I need to post every tiny detail? She didn't respond to the invitations-not even "I'd love to come but I am so busy"

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 21:01:07

So May wasn't leader? Why ask the home secretary ?

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 20:39:35

Cameron was asked but was in the process of retiring, May was asked several times and did not respond. On the morning she was timetabled to appear Pickles turned up instead (without any notification)

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 20:10:10

Did the Tory party have a leader at that time ?

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 20:07:45

The attacks on Jewish MP's are most certainly racist

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 19:57:26

It is interesting that the committee did not make any criticism of the Conservative party for failing to send a leader of the party and for the fact that Eric Pickles was unaware of the anti-semetic incident at UCL, but posted this link in the evidence
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/27-times-tory-party-racism-7904018
By the way we must be careful now not to confuse racism and anti-semitism or so I am told.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 19:57:11

At times I wonder if he is either not confrontational or very crafty , he just doesn't come across as the honest man I once thought him to be. Why doesn't he break with momentum, he has the leadership , why not stand on his own feet

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 19:42:38

And he is most certainly in denial that there is any problem at all!

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 19:39:10

Two out if ten, no,problem with that trisher, you seem to . I think the committee were right, Corbyn is not a racist but I believe him to weak to sort out the racists.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 19:25:02

You tell me. If the 2 MPs had been members of Momentum and Corbyn had been completely exonerated would you have agreed with it?

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 19:21:34

So cross party not all party, so was he correct trisher ?