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Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

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POGS Thu 06-Oct-16 19:48:07

Well this could be interesting.

Rosie Winterton sacked from Chief Whips position and Nick Brown back in the Cabinet again. Baroness Shami Chakrabarti has done very well since joining Labour she is now Shadow Attorney General and Dianne Abbot Shadow Home Secretary, Dawn Butler Shadow Minority Ethnic Communities, Sarah Champion Shadow Women and Equalities Minister and Jo Stevens Shadow Secretary of State for Wales.

It will be interesting to see if any who signed 'No Confidence' in Corbyn can/will be in Corbyn's reshuffled Cabinet Team. Time for 'Unity'?

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 19:06:54

One Labour MP didn't sign because she was also a witness, the other 2 have openly criticised Corbyn and are members of Progress. It would have been nice to have at least one impartial voice on there.

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 19:05:49

Select committees are made up of MPs from different parties, with their membership reflecting the strength of parties in the House.

Select committee members are not from all of the parties, so shouldn't be called ‘all-party committees’ but ‘cross-party committees’.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 18:59:58

Have you looked at the composition of the Committee? It has 6 Conservative members, 3 Labour and 1 SNP, no Greens, no Liberals, no UKIP. So it is not in effect an All Party committee.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 18:49:18

True rosesarered, he is a weak leader , dependant on momentum not strengthening own leadership abilities

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 18:45:41

Trisher, you think claiming an ALL party select committee is made up of EITHER all solidy Tory or filled with labour people who would go on to vote no confidence in .jeremy , and that is not a stupid comment? Perhaps you will explain which of the two make up the select committee ?

rosesarered Sun 16-Oct-16 18:09:07

Nobody thinks that Corbyn is anti-Semitic, but it's thought that his very weak leadership has allowed it to grow.Of course you will find it in all parties, but the mark of a good leader is not to go down the ' denial' route.That goes for Farron as well.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 17:54:06

Ken Livingston is not a stupid man he was a highly successful and popular Mayor of London. He is also very honest, admitting that to speak about Hitler as he did on Vanessa Feltz programme was a mistake. Just because you disagree with him is no reason to question his abilities. I dislike Tony Blair and what he did, I regard him as a warmonger and an opportunist, but I would never call him stupid.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 13:43:12

So the Labour party has racists , shall we say no matter so has other parties?

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 13:41:51

They didn't turn up, they were wrong, but dismissing your party is wrong by critcising other parties is so wrong in my opinion.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 13:36:54

Well that applies to Eric Pickles as well. So counter your not answering all questions with not turning up and not answering all questions as well. It shows respect to turn up, it shows honesty to answer all questions. You might ask why Cameron and May chose not to turn up.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 13:25:58

Trisher, you are more concerned with other parties than the party you support , what point turning up but not answering all questions ?

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 13:23:46

KL would say that , stupid man

Niggly, thank you. I was told from a young age - not to fear speaking out against what you believe is wrong but never fear to speak out if you find you are in the wrong . This followed two school cannings , one for sliding on the school roof and one for not owning up to sliding on the school roof grin

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 13:18:28

Pity the leaders of All Parties didn't attend then.

Jalima Sun 16-Oct-16 13:07:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37656197

Mr Corbyn hit back at the committee's findings and said the report's "political framing and disproportionate emphasis on Labour" risked undermining it
Former London mayor Ken Livingstone, who was suspended from Labour over anti-Semitism, said the committee was "rigged" against Mr Corbyn.
He told BBC London: "The membership was either all solidly Tory - who weren't friends of Jeremy - [or] filled with [Labour] people who would actually go on, a few weeks later, to vote for no confidence in Jeremy."
Conservative MP Tim Loughton, who is acting chairman of the committee, said he resented the "attack on the integrity" of the MPs, who he said had "gone out of [their] way to be non-partisan".

Priceless remark by KL!

This is an All-Party committee.

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 13:00:57

What rather surprised me was this re the Lib Dems:

The Liberal Democrats in particular should pay heed to the need to act swiftly and decisively to deal with antisemitism within their ranks. We were disappointed by the manner in which their Leader, Tim Farron, referred to disciplinary processes rather than explicitly condemning antisemitic remarks made by members of his Party, and we were surprised to learn that Cllr David Ward remains an elected representative of the Liberal Democrats, despite his repeated antisemitic comments.

nigglynellie Sun 16-Oct-16 12:55:38

Sadly it is in all party's and should be stamped on very firmly. I think because the Labour party was founded on the principle of championing the underprivileged, the minorities, and the persecuted, it makes it more unbelievable/and deeply worrying that anti semitism should exist in a party that actively and vehemently denounces such practises.
ab, once again you have demonstrated what a strong person you are to admit that you were mislead. I may well find myself in that position ref: Mrs May! I hope not, but hopefully I too will be prepared to admit it!!

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 12:36:45

Shami refused to answer questions put to her by the select committee , there is no defence any Labour Party member can in honesty put forward to defend the findings of the committee . To say it's in other parties does not make it right for my party to be racist, we have a long history of fighting racism

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-16 12:33:30

Yes there is in all parties but the leader of the Labour Party held his own enquiry which declared there was no anti semitism and then toddled off to the Lords followed by joining his shadow cabinet .

I disagreed with some on this forum because I really didn't believe there was anti semitism in the party, and disagreed strongly , this was in the early days of Corbyn so before the attack on Ruth Smee, Shami's enquiry and the vice chair of Momentum saying didn't know the definition of anti semitism , she is still in momentum

Sorry I disagreed so strongly , you were right and I was wrong

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 12:30:00

Did you read that Cameron didn't attend because he was just resigning and May didn't go either. They eventually sent Eric Pickles and he didn't know anything about one of the cases they wanted to ask about-shows a lot of respect for the select committee don't you think?

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 12:29:52

The report itself makes it clear that all parties need to address the problem. I'd rather read that than some biased hysteria.

durhamjen Sun 16-Oct-16 12:14:49

Did you read the bit in the report that says that there is anti-semitism in all parties?

skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/smearwegoagainmps-say-corbyns-labour-antisemitic-well-they-would-wouldnt-they/

petra Sun 16-Oct-16 12:08:56

Did you know that Seamus Miln is the son of Alisdair Miln, ex DG of the BBC. He was the first DG sacked by the BBC. While in that job he wanted to increase the TVs licence by 41%. After a talk with Thatcher, that didn't happen.

petra Sun 16-Oct-16 11:55:19

No Anniebach people don't think all labour MPs and supporters are of this ilk.
The people I feel sorry for are those outside the M25 who think Corbyn, Chakrobati and Miln care about them, when in reality, they don't give a stuff,
Although I'm sure Chakrobati would find her way beyond the M25 if you wanted to sue the government.

trisher Sun 16-Oct-16 11:27:39

Thanks Ana don't know why I couldn't find it.
Think this needs a new thread

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 11:07:44

www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmhaff/136/13602.htm