Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Always the way dj its called spin take everything with a pinch of salt unless it's an opinion or straight from the horses mouth.

Apologies, I posted the following on the wrong thread but was quickly corrected

Two whips have resigned over the sacking of Rosie Winterton

One of the whips is in the most marginal seat and wants to concentrate on the constituency. Quite reasonable, I would think.
The other one had a run in with Corbyn earlier in the year, and is trying to make himself the centre of attention again.
Rosie Winterton was offered another position and refused it.

If even John Mann says it's time to get behind Corbyn for the sake of the party, I don't see why you can't, Annie.

I have explained why I supported him and why I no longer can Jen, most of his policies are Labour policies, I do not trust him , I accept you do , I can assure you that it was not a decision I took lightly . I have supported every leader from Gaitskill on but not this one. I cannot support militants or trots and this leader tried to bring them back in , do you want Galloway,Hatton and co back?

If they are labour party members and no longer members of any other party, is there any reason why they can't come back?

Prodigal son springs to mind.

They were banned from the Party , if you have no problem with the likes if these men then again your choice

Again you replied to a question with a question Jen, do you support Hatton and .galloway?

Pointless, Annie. Once again you have turned a thread into an anti-Corbyn rant.

Jen, I did not rant , what a cheap trick to avoid a question

Rosie Winterton plainly and obviously failed to do her job when Corbyn was first elected leader. The job of a whip is to make sure the MPs stay in line and support the leader. She couldn't do it. Like most people who fail to do a job she was sacked, where's the problem?

So he will now have unity with the new whip? How come two whips resigned following the appointment of the new chief whip? Will he now sack the new chief whip?

New boss, new staff. It often happens.

Responding to a question with three questions. Cheap trick.

Responding to a question with three questions. Cheap trick.

oh, come on djen! You can't be serious!

How often? ..... oh never mind

To elaborate I would imagine Nick Brown called them in and told them what he expected of them and they decided they couldn't do it, so they resigned. He's an experienced whip so he would be very clear about his requirements.

Jalima you have to laugh eh?

It all sounds very draconian - keep 'em in line OR ELSE!

Failed to do the job trisher .....( jaw drops in utter amazement) Do you imagine all the members of the shadow cabinet who resigned earlier this year also did so because they knew they weren't up to it? Corbyn only wants yes men and women around.

Rosie Winterton has been in the post for six years, Nick Brown for one year

Rosie Winterton was on Corbyns hit list which was released earlier this year !

Corbyn said at the conference he wanted the party to work together, to unit , then starts to form his new shadow cabinet on the sly

What post was Rosie Winterton offered after she had been sacked ?

Strangely, there only seems to be vague mention of 'another job'. Perhaps someone more in the know can tell us.

I am sure they will Ana, I spoke to an MP today but seems he isn't in the know

OMG are you really all so naive? Have you not watched "The Thick of It"? Do you really not know that chief whips are the dark side of politics? That Blair had not only a Chief Whip to keep the MPs in line but Alistair Campbell, supposedly the most abusive person in politics, to step on them. Rosie Winterton should have stamped down hard and stopped the MPs conspiring against Corbyn before it got to anyone resigning. She didn't. Neither did the other whips. If someone fails to do a job they get sacked, doesn't matter how long they have been in post. And don't imagine that it is just Labour and Corbyn who behave like this Conservative Whips do exactly the same.

And I always thought the whips were there to make ice cream , yes naive not to realise a fictional tv programme was fact,

Come to think of it , 'Yes Minster ' has come to mind ,

I thought they literally had whips! Could just see Rosie Winterton as a dominatrix...