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A bad day for the world

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Jane10 Wed 09-Nov-16 05:53:51

Trump. How could all those people vote for him?
Ochone ochone (Gaelic lamentation)

whitewave Wed 09-Nov-16 08:15:14

What power does the president actually have? I am in a steep learning curve.

whitewave Wed 09-Nov-16 08:14:01

granny that takes me back!!!!

Wobblybits Wed 09-Nov-16 08:13:29

Brexit was a bad day for Britain in some peoples opinion, Trump is a bad day for the World. I believe he will push the nuclear button before long. God help humanity.

Jane10 Wed 09-Nov-16 08:13:13

When I was a little girl, if an election didn't go the way my Dad thought it should, he would wear a black tie. If asked, he'd tell people he was in mourning for his country! I bet a lot of people feel like that today.sad

Nana3 Wed 09-Nov-16 08:08:59

First Brexit now this. The world has become an even more dangerous place, what can we do? There must be something.

boheminan Wed 09-Nov-16 08:05:48

In shock, what an awful way to start the day. Unbeliavable

grannyactivist Wed 09-Nov-16 08:01:34

Is what is happening in the western world Durkheim's 'Anomie'?
www.faculty.rsu.edu/users/f/felwell/www/Theorists/Essays/Durkheim1.htm

Im68Now Wed 09-Nov-16 08:01:21

Look how right wing the industrial world become.

sunseeker Wed 09-Nov-16 08:01:11

Listening to Trump at the moment, he is coming across as much more reasonable than his campaigning comments - of course as someone said this could just prove that he has a good speech writer and that he can read an auto-cue!! I believe (hope) his more extreme policies will be stopped by Congress, even though the Republicans may have a majority many of them didn't back or want Trump. I am reminded of the old Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times"

durhamjen Wed 09-Nov-16 08:00:54

22% of his followers think he will start a nuclear war, and they still voted for him. 65% of those polled think he is a bigger liar than Clinton, but some of them must have voted for him.

Brexiteers are not the biggest idiots on the planet any more.

MaizieD Wed 09-Nov-16 08:00:36

Speechless and utterly gutted.

I feel so sorry for the USA's Democrats.
And for Hillary Clinton.

Still, does the UK now slip back into 2nd place as the world's most stupid country? Or are the US & the UK now level pegging?

durhamjen Wed 09-Nov-16 07:57:51

That andf an inch of snow, too.
I am consoling myself with a picture in my head of Trump watching his voter numbers increase while his shares are decreasing in value, and his minders will not let him phone or tweet his stockbroker, just in case he says something he shouldn't.

DaphneBroon Wed 09-Nov-16 07:55:55

If a picture is worth a thousand words.....

vampirequeen Wed 09-Nov-16 07:53:18

I'm so scared.

J52 Wed 09-Nov-16 07:53:04

Stunned!

Happy Birthday Jane.

gillybob Wed 09-Nov-16 07:49:00

Happy birthday Jane10 smile you might never forget this one !

gettingonabit Wed 09-Nov-16 07:47:16

Interesting take by some commentators, claiming that Clinton undermined herself by speaking to Goldman Sachs for money etc.

This is a sad day indeed. I think it'll be a disaster, though.

whitewave Wed 09-Nov-16 07:43:44

Happy Birthday to you jane

Jane10 Wed 09-Nov-16 07:42:38

It does make me appreciate UK politics. Whoever gets in here may have an effect on the economy one way or another but there isn't a hint of the nasty racist, sexist, xenophobic morality that is likely to prevail in America. That's one country scored off our holiday list. There'll be loads more guns for one thing. Back to lamentation. This must be my worst birthday ever.sad

BlueBelle Wed 09-Nov-16 07:42:37

Daphneboon you are so right I am also seeing Germany 1939 ....OMG my poor little grandkids

whitewave Wed 09-Nov-16 07:39:15

Trump is President. Clinton has conceded

DaphneBroon Wed 09-Nov-16 07:38:47

grannypiper who is to say what their motivation was, but I fear they will NOT be seeing the rise in the economy, or employment or US " greatness" they were promised.
Look at Germany in 1933.
Trump has fanned the flames of hatred, of racial division, of misogyny and to mix my metaphors, the genie is never going back in that bottle.

whitewave Wed 09-Nov-16 07:34:54

No they won't be granny But there is undoubtedly a reaction to both the political classes and the economy by those with the least power namely the working classes. Given a chance to kick the politicians they have gone in hard just as they did here in the U.K. They can't kick the capitalist class so this is the only way they can show their dismay at the way their life is going.

Health care will be gone.
A wall will be built
The military will be grown
The world is less safe

TerriBull Wed 09-Nov-16 07:33:56

Went to bed last night expecting to hear America would have a President Clinton, switched on BBC news to find that is now very unlikely. A feeling of trepidation for the now quite likely outcome shock

Pittcity Wed 09-Nov-16 07:32:47

Those who voted for the third party are regretting it now...echoes of Brexit.