Brexit 5

No, durhamjen. His great-grandfather was, though.

If MPs are unable to accept the Referendum result, why did they not say so during the debate on the Referendum Bill which passed by a landslide on the Second Reading? It would have been good too if a few of them had said, given the long history of Euroscepiticism in the UK and the closeness of the Polls, that Leave might just win and the Government should prepare for either eventuality. Parliament voted resoundingly for a Referendum and they should stand by the result.

Not forgetting the fact that Turkey has just brought back capital punishment, which is not allowed in any EU country.
Wasn't Boris's grandfather Turkish?

I thought I was pretty unshockable following events of the past 6 months, but I have just read that Boris Johnson has now completely turned around his pre-referendum stance on Turkey's application to join the EU and is offering to help broker a deal for Turkey, despite the fact that we're leaving. Surely we should remain silent about issues which will no longer be our concern.

He was in the forefront of stoking the prejudice during the referendum campaign by suggesting thousands of Turkish migrants would flood into the UK if Britain remained in the EU. This was of course proven to be untrue and another case of post-truth politics.

Richard Branson's getting in on the act, too.

Sir Richard Branson funding new campaign group to fight Brexit

Branson partially funding group led by former Labour social mobility tsar Alan Milburn which aims to reverse referendum

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/21/sir-richard-branson-funding-new-campaign-group-fighting-brexit

Unfortunately Brussels and the other 27 nations can do as they like and just tell us what they have decided. The rules say that the country wishing to leave has no rights to be at the talks deciding how they will leave and the deal given to them and must accept the decision made. This was clearly stated before the vote so no good squealing about it now.
Brussels is aware that 48% wished to remain within the Union and maybe that will temper the decisions which will affect everyone in UK.

I would be surprised if there was a majority in Parliament for a hard Brexit. The trouble is, is what Brussels intends to do. We may not have any choice.

I read today that Branson was about to sign a new contract with 3000 jobs available, but pulled it at the last minute.
They didn't vote for that either.

90 Labour MPs have sent a letter to the Guardian saying that a 'hard' Brexit (which is what it's starting to look like might happen)would be a disaster for working people.

“Falling back on World Trade Organisation rules would not be a clean break but the most destructive, harshest of settlements, which would lead to fewer jobs, less business investment and would leave the British people poorer. This is not what they voted for in June.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/21/hard-brexit-disaster--working-people-labour-mps-letter?CMP=share_btn_tw

Problem is, it doesn't look as though we'll get anything else without agreeing to freedom of movement. How many Leavers would be prepared to compromise on this, I wonder?

Just out of interest, this is one person's vision of what a 'hard Brexit' might look like:

The ‘hard Brexit’ cliff edge: blocked roads, empty shelves, a country waiting to be exploited

inews.co.uk/explainers/iq/hard-brexit-cliff-edge-vision-leaving-eu-without-deal-imagined/

Remainers don't want Blair either. This might make him change his mind and clear off abroad again.

skwawkbox.org/2016/11/20/blair-used-uk-troops-against-uk-citizens-in-the-uk/

If TB gets involved the waters just get even muddier..

I'm not sure if we want guidance from the likes of T B. Any more than the Breadsticks need Nigel F to guide them through the muddy waters ahead.

Well that's ruined my Sunday.Dont know which one is worse Tony "the treason" Blair or Jeremy "slopey shoulders" Corbyn