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In the mix of asylum seekers I have often noted nationalities such as Tunisian, Moroccan, Algerian, Pakistani, Albanian. WHY? Their countries are not at war and although they may not be ideal, so many varied nationalities are lumped into the same category as say Syrians, Afghans etc., who in many cases are having to flee for their lives. It doesn't help the case of the genuine refugee who is great need of being granted a safe haven if all and sundry arrive in Western Europe because they think it will be a better place to live.

The question is , done in the name of Islam ( pervertedly) or anger at society in general?Either way, a terrorist plan.

Yes ab that was on the news, a Tunisian ( like the lorry outrage in France, he was a Tunisian.)

Latest news. Identity Papers were found in the vehicle belong to a Tunisan asylum seeker who had been refused asylum and was to be deported

The overriding feeling everywhere is fear. You don't know your enemy or how or when they will strike. The terrorists have got what they want. How can there ever be an integrated society? My hearts go out to all involved yesterday. How many more times will they strike over the holiday period?

TYPO 'tweet' should be 'tweets' (plural)

I heard that too. So all the stuff about the perpetrator being a recent asylum seeker could very well be speculation.

@MaizieD

Very true! Just reading about this on my local BBC page.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-38376421

HopeNotHate has collected the tweet which were sent after Jo Cox's murder. Quite a number of them claimed she deserved to die, because she ignored the exploitation of young girls in her constituency.

The two men in the link above operated their inder age prostitution agency from Shoeburyness. The MP is James Duddridge. I wonder how many death threats he's received.

Last I heared on the news was that the man they held is now released, and they think the driver may be still at large .

Apparently the original Polish driver had been stabbed and shot, poor man. Then driven in the passenger seat of the truck.

Not in my opinion, no, Lillie. Sex pests are found in every population and of every nationality. How on earth can one man be held to be typical of thousands of asylum seekers?

(I could supply an answer to that question, but I won't)

an asylum seeker known to the police does not mean all asylum seekers commit crimes

The owner of the lorry has identified the body through photographs as the driver, who was his cousin.
There is no proof that the attacker was an asylum seeker, Maizie. However, people know who the original suspect was and where he lived.

The suspect was released, however since his arrival in Germany he was known to the police for sexual attacks and insults. Is that not enough to call into question the type of asylum seekers landing on their shores?

So there is actually no proof that the attacker was an asylum seeker?

Yes, it was his cousin's lorry firm, so presumably the original delivery driver who was killed.

A Polish man.

It is a bit confusing; there was a dead man in the lorry but could that have been the original driver as the lorry was hi-jacked?

Loss of lives, families and friends grieving, so much fear too, for the German people and the refugees and immigrants who want a new life away from violence and poverty

The suspect has been released, I hope he wasn't harmed but think I hope in vain

There are no real indication btw that that was a 'terrorist' attack, or a lone wolf attack- at this stage, btw.

If we have to have more security around such as felice mentions and all the solid bollards around open pedestrianised areas we must do so to enable our way of life to continue.
I am quite security conscious having worked somewhere for many years which was often on high alert so unattended bags etc, make me nervous.

Our hearts go out to the families of those killed, those who are injured and to the German people.

There is a big German Market here in Birmingham. It gets thousands of visitors every day. The area is pedestrianised and the authorities have erected those big concrete blocks all around it which is reassuring.

I have just come home from a lovely afternoon at the Brussels Christmas market.
Being me I got talking to an American Mother and Daughter.
They commented on the amount of soldiers with 'big guns'. they did not seem to know there had been terrorist attacks umm. I had to explain, made me wonder what news they get in the US. They are from Washington.

There were a lot of large wooden crates with Christmas trees on top, when i looked inside one it was a huge concrete/steel cube. They were at all the entrances to the pedestrian areas, and you had to wind around them.

We need to get on with our lives 'don't let the buggers grind us down'
They have been there since the beginning of the month.

The city is beautiful and full of tourists and locals,

I worked in Birmingham city centre at the time of the IRA bombings. We were constantly being evacuzated from our building and although it was frightening, we knew we were being looked after. I agree that we can't check on every bag but I do think it's irresponsible to leave a bage unattended and walk outside.

Agree with Terribull, IRA attacks taught us a lot.