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First blood to Trump

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whitewave Wed 04-Jan-17 06:03:50

Trump will be inaugurated in 16 days time. Ford has recognised this new era.

How will his Junta of advisors deal with the political world?

Will Trump continue to govern by twitter?

Will his erratic behaviour stop?

Will he be less muddled in his thinking?

What will happen to NATO and article 5?

Will the world survive his environmental policy - such that it is?

Will America be able to contain him?

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 16:51:35

It is the way he considers that whatever lies he comes up with, that because he says them then they must be true. Extraordinary!

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 17:07:38

I suppose realistically, Trumps presidency will stay reasonably secure until either Putin or the CIA decide otherwise.

Iam64 Tue 17-Jan-17 17:59:23

whitewave, that's been my feeling for some time. Something that does puzzle me, is the thinking behind the FBI raising the spectre of Hilary's emails so close to the election, only to confirm within a couple of days there was nothing to worry about. Meanwhile, all the agencies had the allegations about Trump in Russia. I've already said, I don't have enough information to reach a conclusion about the veracity of the allegations - but the FBI did have enough information to rule out concerns about Hilary, yet the raised concerns.
Very odd isn't it.

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 18:13:43

iam64 yes I've thought the same. It could be that they suddenly realised that the Russian intelligence was making mischief, I think it is highly likely given what has already been concede about Russian hacking.

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 19:51:54

One of my interests and focuses is climate change, and I was interested to see the Despatches programme looking at Trumps policy with regard to this subject.

We know that Trump is a declared climate change sceptic. Rex Tillerson has been employed as Secretary of State an Exxon executive who is the epitome of total corporate oil industry this will be his chance to push his sceptical climate change agenda
Pre the election Trump has promised new jobs in the coal industry, claiming global warming to be -a hoax. Trump received huge donations from coal companies. And now they will expect Trump to deliver.

The Paris Treaty as far as America is concerned an environmentalist said is dead.

An example of what damage will be done is the Dakota oil pipeline project- home to Suiox which is threatening their water. What will Trump do? He invests into the firm that owns the pipeline and the company donates heavily to Trump
It expected that all controversial drilling including the Arctic wil go ahead.

In Scotland we saw the - lengths Trump will go to to get what he wants.
Aberdeen golf course a Wind farm was proposed off shore and is expected to supply 70% clean electrics to homes in Aberdeen. Trump wrote letters vicious threatening and personal to Salmon but he was unable to overcome the democratic process and Lost the battle

Trump is seen as an empty vessel - by the oil companies, he is clueless so oil funding groups such as the Heritage Foundation are moving in to tell him what he should think.

There is clearly a huge and existential risk to our climate - we are threatening our grandchildrens future.

As one of Trumps cronies said " 50 years from now one of us is going to be proven right. Who cares!!!"

God help us.

durhamjen Tue 17-Jan-17 22:19:31

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/01/17/venn-diagrams-for-our-times-trump/

durhamjen Tue 17-Jan-17 22:34:12

Did the pipeline not get stopped, whitewave?

Anya Tue 17-Jan-17 22:57:00

Think it did.

Judthepud2 Tue 17-Jan-17 23:05:41

So.....apparently after the inauguration, POTUS Trump is taking the next few days off to recover. Source: @theRealDonald on Twitter. Seems no one has actually told him that the job is not 9 to 5, 5 days a week!

Luckygirl Tue 17-Jan-17 23:19:01

Anyone watch the3 programme about Trump and his life and family this evening? What a bunch of crooks!

durhamjen Tue 17-Jan-17 23:27:18

I also read an article in the i about when he was a child. He looks very similar, and someone who knew him wasn't allowed to play with him as he was a bully.
Trump himself said that his temperament is not that different from when he was in first grade. What a thing to admit.
One of his ex teachers said that even when he was ten he was a little s**t.

Elrel Tue 17-Jan-17 23:47:55

Lucky - OMG yes! What a bunch, as you say. Sadly it hasn't stopped Trump being about to become 'The Ruler of the Free World', I keep hoping to wake up.

Mair Wed 18-Jan-17 00:03:59

"One of his ex teachers said that even when he was ten he was a little s**t."

How very unprofessional.
I daresay if journos went looking for it they could find someone to bad mouth any POTUS. They are all egoists who will have got up the noses of many in their time, undoubtedly even your beloved Obama. Clinton, Regan, Kennedy, Bush all for sure.

Ginny42 Wed 18-Jan-17 00:13:00

He'll need the weekend off to send thousands of tweets to the democrats pulling out of the inauguration, entertainers refusing to attend and thousands worldwide demonstrating on Saturday. Maybe he'll get tendonitis and the tweets will finally stop.

www.wsj.com/articles/texting-frequently-with-thumbs-may-cause-tendinitis-1411410025

Apparently hotel bookings are not as high as predicted. High end hotels are booked up, but others have cut the 4 day limited stay to 2 days.

durhamjen Wed 18-Jan-17 08:01:17

How very unprofessional?
You're talking about someone who taught this man 60 years ago! He's allowed to say things like that about the most unprofessional loudmouth in the world.
Anyway, the ex-teacher died before Trump was elected, fortunately for him.
Even more unprofessional because he told his son who told the journalist. Oh dear!

durhamjen Wed 18-Jan-17 08:03:04

Ginny, do you think Trump will have read that and stop before he gets tendonitis?

whitewave Wed 18-Jan-17 08:46:58

dj your question about the pipe. Yes it got stopped by Obama, but the Trump rabble are intent on starting it up again. The Sioux own the land and water, but I reckon they will have a fight on their hands which they are almost certain to lose in the face of Trump. I'm not sure what will happen to them if the water becomes contaminated.

daphnedill Wed 18-Jan-17 09:33:40

whitewave Obama has just pledged $500,000 to climate change. He's sending the money to the UN's Green Climate Fund before Trump can stop him.

grist.org/briefly/obama-is-spending-another-500-million-to-fight-climate-change-before-trump-can-stop-him/

whitewave Wed 18-Jan-17 09:42:34

Yo grin

rosesarered Wed 18-Jan-17 10:06:36

I bet the poor inner cities black people are celebrating that right now.Not.

whitewave Wed 18-Jan-17 10:10:01

But their grandchildren will. It isn't always about the short term

Mair Wed 18-Jan-17 11:12:44

"Obama has just pledged $500,000 to climate change. He's sending the money to the UN's Green Climate Fund before Trump can stop him."

Surely would be better to spend money directly on projects than handing taxpayers money over to unaccounatble supra national organisations with their overpaid directors and self serving ethos.

Of course the globalist agenda is always to shift power and money out of the democratic sphere.

www.greenclimate.fund/-/new-executive-director-takes-office-at-the-green-climate-fund?inheritRedirect=true&redirect=%2Fhome

Mair Wed 18-Jan-17 11:27:17

www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-we-should-kill-the-green-climate-fund-8929564.html

"The GCF joins a cacophony of parallel climate support vehicles, including the Global Environment Facility (GEF), the Climate Investment Funds (CIF), the World Bank Group, the UN climate talks Adaptation Fund and another thirty five organizations listed as “UN partners on climate change,” none of which are decisively tackling climate risks."

But Obama has given to it, and He can do no wrong...

Iam64 Wed 18-Jan-17 12:32:18

It isn't about Obama doing no harm, it's whether Trump can, or will, do anything good that's about the welfare of others, rather than feeding his ego and lining his pockets.

Lewlew Wed 18-Jan-17 13:51:59

This is seriously weird! I lived through being in the DC riots of 1968. What is wrong with Trump's people? Do they want the National Guard commander on duty to not hesitate to shoot protesters or something? This General has been in charge since George W's time. Normally presidential appointees do tender letters of resignation, by why accept it? hmm

www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commanding-general-of-dc-national-guard-to-be-removed-from-post/2017/01/13/725a0438-d99e-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html?utm_term=.bc140d7ce33b

This is an unusual situation. This is the equivalent of your TA and they are run on a state by state basis with the state governor appointing the leader of the National Guard. But in DC, the president does it. DC is unique as it's not a 'state'.

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