Corbyn out of hiding

I am listening to him, hell he is so boring ,

Iam

'POGS just a small point. You refer to the Labour membership as though each and every one of them are Corbynisters.'

I fully understand and agree with your point.

When I said he has to bridge the gap and mentioned Labour Members I was talking of those from Momentum , those who joined or rejoined Labour after he was nominated and successfully won the Labour Leadership . I don't think there is much of argument in saying they are Corbynistas.

It is difficult to know or understand how to describe Labour at the moment.

Listening to his speech live now.

GG MK 2

Perhaps it would make more sense of your time if you gave an opinion on Corbyn's change of heart re immigration, which I don't think he should be doing or saying, also his wanting to cap wages in law. It has nothing to do with the Daily Mail any more than it is to do with the BBC or other left/right wing media outlets that are commentating/reporting his words.

I think it can be taken as a given you hold, shall I've polite, a dislike of the Daily Mail, Murdoch, Tories as we have noted in past posts from yourself and indeed other posters, some of whom are happy to call themselves activists so no surprise there.

There are many threads on right wing politics, oh so many threads, copious amounts of threads, if you only want to engage in those threads that is your prerogative and simply requires leaving a thread to others to post on.

Intimating posters belong in the playground , are children is one could say is in the eye of the beholder.

Just think how boring GN would be if all the posts on threads were 'discussion based'...

I know Petra, but just couldn't resist!
How can anyone have a serious discussion about Corbyn when he is patently such a joke. Some people are so po-faced and pompous. Especially his Greenham Common Refugees who protect his flank and shout foul when he is confronted by the Press.

It's certainly not you that is being pompous ab , nor does this thread have anything to do with the DM , it's all about the ever changing policies of a certain Mr J Corbyn, and what we think of them......haha.

Beammeupscottie That was tongue in cheek.

I strongly object to my thread title being classed as DM

GracesGranMK2 The snide remark Re the DM was wasted as it was printed in the left wing bible, otherwise know as the Gaudian. And I expect most people heard it on BBC radio 4 and the BBC news website.
So, if it's printed in the DM it's not true, but if it's in the gaudian it is ?
I knew someone would come along to spoil our fun

I don't do pompous and how can there be a discussion when the man is talking fog

I am with Iam. Not all party mrmbers are members of momentum and not all are corbynites, our local party has lost half it's members .

I hear labour MP's are texting - what is he on about now

...but you have posted on it!
I expect it's not intellectual enough for you, and yes this thread is probably for non pompous posters.

Just as I would rarely read the Daily Mail because I know its bent, there is really no point in posting on this DM headlined thread with all its usual point scoring rather than discussion based posts (with the odd noticeable exception).

Have fun children.

Give the man a break? If you broke Corbyn in half all you would see is the word LOSER going through him like a stick of Blackpool rock.

POGS just a small point. You refer to the Labour membership as though each and every one of them are Corbynisters. They aren't, our local party has lost a number of what I see as genuine Labour supporters because of Corbyn and his acolytes. I'm not disputing he has a huge mandate as a result of winning the leadership election. I agree with you though, he doesn't have huge support amongst many traditional Labour/left leaning people who know he'll never win an election.

Give the man a break POGS there's only co much information that he can take in at one time. He's only just woken up to the fact that most labour voters are against mass immigration, don't expect him to grasp economics as well.

Dutch Cap.

If he wants it to be made 'law' he must explain what the cap will be set at to be taken seriously.

Will it be , 'Well we need to have a discussion on what it will be'.

A Lenin cap?

He's not saying what that cap should be though. Just a vague generalisation.

Some believe Corbyn is a so-called principled, honest politician who will remain true to his views.

His view has been widely accepted as 'Free Movement of People', open border policy. This is not written by left/right wing papers or by left/right wing commentator's it is the words that have come from Corbyn himself whilst being interviewed and we have all had the chance to watch.

He is reported today as saying something of an opposite nature on immigration, if he does how is he still a principled, honest politician who is leading the Labour Party in accordance with his party members who have backed him due to his stance on immigration, Trident etc.

Personally I think he has the likes of Keir Starmer who are tuning his head in but should he tune his head in over immigration and what he has said in the past just to get votes? He should stand on a platform that his membership have voted him in on or he is open to be being called a hypocrite. Could he lose the faith of those who have shown utter faith in him being a principled politician.

Personally I think he has to bridge a gap between the Labour membership , his fellow Labour MP's and the wider general electorate and he will have to shift from his principles but he will be a hypocrite if he does, that is the pitfall of being Leader of the Labour Party as opposed to being a back bench, rebellious MP. I would prefer he does stand on a platform of honesty and standing his ground over matters such as immigration, Trident, economy etc. so the voter has the opportunity to see who and what they are voting for.

I wonder how much backing he has from his back bench MP's over the 'capping of pay'.?

I believe his speech from Peterborough this afternoon is going to be aired on Sky News and the BBC so it may or may not become clearer as to what Labours stance is now. My guess is it will cause the back bench to be relieved slightly on his immigration views but concern over his 'pay cap' stance.

As I said before: he's the gift that keeps on giving. Mind you, I think the fun could soon end ( on here) nudge nudge, wink wink.

Roses lol

* Ana* So if he hasn't been Corbyn, who has he been. It reminds me of that tv programme where they said: "Will the right ...... stand up please" [ grin]

How very rude!

It was said he is 'doing a trump'