Melania and equality

FFS stop picking over people you don't know, the woman's clothes, smiles, prayers, leave them alone. I have seen the Queen looking pretty bored and cheesed off at times and she has decades of experience to fall back on........

It is hard enough in marriages and family relationships to know what is going on. What business is it of ours what their relationship is?

They must have had huge security concerns to worry about..........

President Trump speaks the language of the working classes, the forgotten people, the old men who remember when labour had jobs...we are on the cusp of something new in the world and there is an expected clash of cultures, none of which is made better by people thinking that they know, what someone else is thinking.

The Clintons are a pair of stinkers, Obama bombed and droned people how family friendly do we think he is? His perfect family set up do we know that is real ? We don't.

What I believe is real, is that he was prepared to bully us prior to the referendum by saying, he would see to it that we were at 'the back of the queue' if we voted to leave. He was happy to interfere in our democracy when it suited him.

I don't know how Trump will pan out as a president, but plenty of other people whose business it is, think a change is needed and they made it.

If we continually rubbish everyone and pick over clothes and smiles and prayer faces, we are operating at the lowest level of intelligence possible and the fate of the world is worth a lot more than that.

As for Trump being a misogynist who says he is ? Madonna who has been flaunting her own tired pussy for money for as long as I care to remember............grrrrrrr what a start to the day this thread is.

Good post Radicalnan it's certainly getting out of hand, especially Melania sniping.

I couldn't agree with you more radicalnan .

.....and having read (I was bored) some of his recent speeches I have noticed that the media (as per usual) are picking pieces out and joining them to other pieces, changing the entire context of the original speech.

And Theresa May has almost copied one of his speeches when she says she wants the UK to stay out of other countries battles and concentrate on looking after our own borders.

I may be wrong but I thought she said she wanted to put an end to UK getting militarily involved to "remake sovereign countries in our own image".

"Who cares".
She looks happy enough to me!

For those who think he has only said one thing about women, check this site
www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/
And this one's a doozy
"Why do people think it’s egotistical of you to say you could’ve gotten with Lady Di?” Stern asked him. “You could’ve gotten her, right? You could’ve nailed her.”

“I think I could have,” Trump said"
Not a misogynist then?

I just hope that none of you who are objecting to comments about Melania Trump read the Daily Mail.

I am glad you spoke up, radical. And well said. There is always more than one interpretation of events. It's good to hear them all. Too often nowadays people are afraid to say what they really think because they are subjected to name-calling, disapproval and a 'ganging up' mentality from people who disagree.

It has been said repeatedly that the Brexit vote and the election of Trump happened because people felt their reasonable concerns were simply not being listened to. Some people are still not listening. Theresa May is one of those who is. Trump? I dunno, but the Democrats certainly weren't.

..and well said you thatbags I think many of us would agree with your post!

That's what I read too, sunseeker.

Thanks, roses. The thing is, I feel I'm quite outspoken on GN and I feel repressed by the forum disapprovers, so Gold help anyone who is not naturally forthright. I think they are simply silenced out a lot of the time.

Gold?

God

Golden God'll do, as in Ra.

A lot of people thought Hitler was o.k. once.

Who are you comparing to Hitler, Melania, Donald, Theresa or God?

Anyone who preaches the politics of division would be a good start.

You think anyone who preaches the politics of division can be compared to Hitler? Really?

When it comes to choosing to marry the guy I think that maybe the multimillionaire tag may have helped!!

I don't think the glamorous model would have have married an unattractive old guy if he was a twice married bin man with no dosh. And the multi billionaire wouldn't marry a woman his own age or who wasn't sexy and glamorous.

Once again people making assumptions about the marriage of people they don't know

Re the Hitler comparisons; I would normally agree angrily that no-one should be compared with the horrors that he perpetrated
HOWEVER: In his first week, this is what Donald Trump has done - it should give us all pause for thought
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.
- Jan 26th- announces the wall, a ban on immigration from majority Muslim countries and half the number of Syrian refugees accepted by US.
-Jan 26th - Calls for an investigation into the interrogation tactics used by the CIA because they have so far been "restrained", the reintroduction of "black sites" off of US soil for suspect interrogation; and a national registry for Muslims.

Thank you Radicalnan. A bit of rationality. I did think that we in more mature years and with a bit of life experience would stay cool on this. Wrong! I'm very aware of the danger of the media and how it manipulates us by giving bare bone stories when it suits them. Showing the worst possible photograph (and their store is limitless) of whichever 'celebrity' they are currently discrediting. Giving out private information about 'celebrities' which we have neither need nor right to know. Why do we get so het up about all this stuff? Have we not a personal place of our own to revel In? Me? I'm on the bus on my way to lunch with a lovely friend indulging myself in this joy of retirement. Hope some of you are having fun too.

Wow!

I hadn't realised he'd already done that much.

Why should the wife of any President be expected to make speeches or know anything about running a country? This girl was a model. She looks good in clothes and is very beautiful imo. What they do in their private lives is no one else' business. After the cringing moment when she was made to read out Mrs Obama's speech and give the impression that it was her own I do not blame her for looking daggers at Trump when asked to do it again. They do not live together but that is because their young son has not finished High School yet, not because there is a rift. I feel sorry for her myself being plunged in to the spotlight without any training for the job. Their young son could hardly keep his eyes open because he had been up since 3am. Any 10 year old would have been the same.

Personally I think Trump has all the right intentions ie putting USA first, but he cannot express himself in a Statesman way. I like him, and I think he should be given a chance to see what he can do. Maybe someone should give him a bit of training to improve what he cannot do...make speeches for example. Our own King George was not too proud to accept help and Trump shouldn't be either.