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Is Trump showing worrying signs of mental disorder?

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MawBroon Mon 30-Jan-17 22:09:45

This article in the Independent certainly gives food for thought, and puts things into perspective. It may explain a lot.
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/donald-trump-mental-illness-narcisissm-us-president-psychologists-inauguration-crowd-size-paranoia-a7552661.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Hollycat Tue 31-Jan-17 17:47:21

I don't think he's mental, but because he is a hard nosed businessman and not a politician his style is not what the UK and the world at large expects. The surprise and shock that has been caused simply because of the speed and the very fact he has stuck to his election pledges says a lot about the deviousness of regular politicians. He certainly appears to be a man of his word, and while others usually try to weasel out of seemingly rash election promises, he has so far stuck to his. These are the promises on which he was elected, these are apparently what Americans wanted and now they're getting them. So perhaps it's wise to be careful what you wish for.

TriciaF Tue 31-Jan-17 17:22:14

Thatbags wrote:
'It would apply equally well in the US.'
[shock) - never!
To them, our rightist Labour Party people are extreme commies!

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 17:15:21

For anyone who might be interested, This is the link to the entire article that quote is from. It's actually arguing against populism quite a lot. It's by Peter Hurst who describes himself as a social democrat and an idealist realist, among other things.

rosesarered Tue 31-Jan-17 17:12:29

thatbags well, Owen Jones gets it at least!
I am happy to see new words, but if they are dropped into just about every thread lose potency.

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 17:12:17

x posts, I've gone...

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 17:09:56

Oh dear, I can see I'm going to have to qualify every statement I make - OK then 'relatively new'.

I certainly hadn't heard of 'whataboutery' until you started dropping it into your posts, daphnedill and although I knew what a man of straw was I'd never come across a 'strawman argument'.

No need to be so defensive - I love learning new (to me) words smile

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 17:07:42

Further to what I just said up thread, this is from Owen Jones:
"‘Unless the left is rooted in working-class communities – from the diverse boroughs of London to the ex-mill towns of the north, unless it speaks a language that resonates with those it once saw as its natural constituency, shorn of contempt for working-class values or priorities, then it has no political future. In Britain, Theresa May understands where history is heading, hence her clumsy, partisan, attempt to pit a supposedly unpatriotic liberal elite against a working-class for whom patriotism is a priority."

It would apply equally well in the US.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 17:03:40

Thanks, varian. It's not a new word to me any more.

varian Tue 31-Jan-17 17:03:27

www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people

varian Tue 31-Jan-17 17:01:58

Kakistocracy -government by the worst people. Not just Trump but Trump's appointees are all uniquely unqualified for their jobs.

ddhttp://www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:57:34

So it's not new now.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:57:15

If the supporters of Malthusian theory, such as Mair, ever get their way, these 'little people' will perish - I suppose that's one way of sorting out the problem.

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 16:56:15

It was new when Elegran introduced it the other day - unless you know different, daphnedill.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:55:12

'Kakistocracy' isn't a new word on GN!!

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:54:37

Errmmm! So you don't think that the globalist extremists are financiers, wealthy landowners or the aristicracy after all? I doubt if many of them are 'on the left'. grin

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 16:54:03

Don't you just love all these new (to me, anyway) words and phrases? grin

The politics of division (or divisive politics) is another one!

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 16:52:40

I wonder when the political elite on the left (it seems to be the left more than the right at the moment) will "get it" about their attitudes to the very people who normally one would expect to vote for them?

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:51:32

And people are rebelling against kakistocracy.

Dyffryn Tue 31-Jan-17 16:51:27

Azie I feel exactly the same as you.

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 16:50:20

I would call actions deplorable rather than people, but I know what you mean, ab.

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 16:49:37

Semantics to some, anya, are important facts to others. Saying something is "just" semantics is rudely dismissive (I'm not taking it personally), just like the deplorables comment. People don't react positively to dismissiveness. Ergo... Trump is president.

Anniebach Tue 31-Jan-17 16:48:28

I have no idea how many trump supporters are deplorable but I think deplorable is correct with the KKK

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 16:45:36

I think this piece of whataboutery is quite important. Hillary Clinton called half of Trump voters "deplorables". It's pathologically superior attitudes like that that made many vote Trump in the first place. People are sick of being looked down on by snooty elites.

handmadedogsweaters Tue 31-Jan-17 16:38:58

Don`t worry my friends there won`t be a war while Trump and Putin rule the world. So please stop the hate as it is no good for the mind and starts to show on the face.So calm down everybody and get back to what you were doing before Donald became President.

AlieOxon Tue 31-Jan-17 16:20:49

Azie I feel exactly the same.