Samantha Cameron talks about son's death to promote her business?!

JessM Open mouth.....insert foot. Don't think you've had quite the response you were hoping for have you?

I thought the Camerons were very dignified when Ivan died,. I didn't see the article about Samantha C but I don't believe she would use her child in that way.

I saw this thread yesterday but chose not to respond before reading the article.

I disagree strongly with you JessM. The facts could not be further from your assumption. Her son's death is the biggest thing that has happened to her and, of course, his memory inhabits every aspect of her life. It is inhuman ( and incorrect) to state that she is using him to promote her new business, especially without having read the original article.

I may not agree with her husband, but this does not conflict with being moved by her as a mother and a woman. Equally, this does not mean I will buy her clothes, but I admire her strength and talent.

I can't get the original Times article without having to sign up and subscribe. I'd like to read the original rather than the BBC synopsis. Can anyone help me?

If you look at the DM on line this morning, they pretty much repeat the Times interview with Samantha Cameron. My sympathy here is with Samantha. I don't feel she is exploiting the death of her much loved son in order to further her career.

I blame the journalists and sub-editor for putting a sensationalised slant on the interview.
It will not be the first time I have read something in a so-called reputable newspaper which just ever so slightly distorts the truth. Not fake news, but how it is presented.

The BBC article didn't have a sensationalised slant, and the thread title is presumably Jess's own opinion of the purpose of the interview.

I very much doubt that the Times article it came from was sensationalised.

The Sunday Times article didn't I know . Not having seen either the BBC, Times or DM I was giving the benefit of the doubt.

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Basically, yesterday there were two articles, two slants.
1. Page 3 of News Section focussed on the woman
2. Glossy magazine section focussed on the fashion

It is true that the feature article highlighted the impact of Ivan's life and death. You can interpret this as you wish. Her stoicism does shine through, however.

Mawbroon, the BBC article is given in the OP.

My oversight Ana I read OP, thought it referred to Sunday Times article which I had read, so jumped in without reading the link.
Still think she was in no way milking the family tragedy and suspect the same interview was the basis for both T and ST articles, but that is just my supposition.

My post of 10.06 makes even less sense than usual.
Where does the "didn't I know" come from? My iPad seems to have started writing its own stuff, which is alarming. I meant "I knew" or words to that effect. Must ask my iPad what I meant to say before it kindly (?) edited it.

Yes, I think we all agree on that here (apart frm the OP, presumably).

The auto corrects are quite funny sometimes - if you catch them before they go! Think we have to accept that we are all not as illiterate as we sometimes appear!

I thought you meant 'you knew' the Sunday Times article didn't have a sensationalised sant, so your post made sense to me!

slant, not sant

I think I'll put this one down to journalism. I still have trouble reconciling their personal experiences to the way his government treated families coping with disability. Perhaps the OP had some personal experience that coloured the way she feels? I know it affects the way I feel about them.

Jayanna

" I think I'll put this one down to journalism."

I asked this question of Jess M earlier:-

"What did she (Samantha Cameron) say that connects the 2 points you raised. Other than the ' timing ' of the publication of the article?."

"You must have read something that has caused you to take such a ' strong line ' of thought and I am interested to know as your thread title is very 'pointed' shall I say."

I don't understand how it is down to journalism and other than the political dislike of her husband and party, in other words nasty political spinning, I fail to see why you agree with the OP which 'chose' to name the thread:-

"Samantha Cameron talks about son's death to promote her business?!

No journalist or media outlet has used such a 'pointed' title, that is the point.

No I don't agree with the OP. I just think maybe things have happened in her own life that influence the way she sees things and prompted an angry reaction. I regret that my compassion for SC is diminished by the distress that policy decisions inflicted on others in similar or worse situations than hers.

When I said I put it down to journalism I meant the journalist possibly used the interview to promote their own agenda

I have a lot for time for Samantha Cameron but, like others, I do wonder how celebrities can suddenly turn into dress designers. Victoria Beckham was another one. How does it happen? Do they sign up for a design course, do they learn on the job, do they simply sketch out an idea and someone more qualified does the donkey work? Does anyone know?

I think you are being unfair to call her a "celebrity". How did Sam Cam become a designer? Well she had the training for a start.
She studied at Camberwell College of Art and went on to study at the University of the West of England's School of Creative Arts.
I can't speak for people like Twiggy or Victoria Beckham or those "slebs" who regularly launch a design/fashion/home ware range as a second career.

Fair enough, MawBroon, Sam Cam had the training.