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whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 13:12:57

Crises in Prisons

Crises in Hospitals

Crises in Social Care

Crises in some Academies

Crises in Local Authority services

Anniebach Fri 17-Mar-17 14:25:18

The contraception pill is not 100% and nit all women can take it. If a woman is taking the pill but becomes pregnant the morning after pill is no use weeks later

magpie123 Fri 17-Mar-17 14:18:22

I thinks its a good idea to restrict tax credits to 2 children, they should also restrict family allowance to 2 as well. Over the top the scenario of how many women get pregnant against their will have they never heard of the morning after pill or even the contraception pill.

Anniebach Fri 17-Mar-17 11:47:42

Degrading women and branding the child.

And how many more abortions will be carried out? Hsve they not heard of unplanned pregnancies .

trisher Fri 17-Mar-17 11:09:10

That is unbelievable. If women are unlikely to report a rape how much more less likely are they to claim that a child they are carrying is the result of a rape? It's revolting. If things go on as they are women will need to take to the streets in protest again.

JessM Fri 17-Mar-17 10:48:57

And another gem. You may be aware that one of the "benefit cuts" they are bringing in this spring is to restrict the payment of tax credits to a maximum of 2 children. So if you give birth to a third one, no more money.
Now some people don't choose to have a third. Some are raped by husbands and partners (or occasionally strangers) and impregnated against their will. However the tories have sneaked through an amendment women are going to have to "verify" that they have been raped.

www.theguardian.com/law/2017/mar/16/tax-credit-clause-becomes-law-without-parliament-vote

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 22:12:21

skwawkbox.org/2017/03/16/tory-electoral-breach-survey-suggests-widespread-postal-vote-breaches/

Ana Thu 16-Mar-17 21:36:23

'rotten'...grin

whitewave Thu 16-Mar-17 21:29:34

if they have it is nowhere near the scale of the rotten Tories.

rosesarered Thu 16-Mar-17 20:09:35

I thought that Labour had done the same thing ( overspending) and also the Lib Dems, according to something I heard on the radio today.

Rigby46 Thu 16-Mar-17 19:30:28

Of course the upside was that it probably kept Nigel out ,?

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 18:57:52

Of course it is corrupt.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/andrew-gwynne/national-insurance_b_15400494.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

They admit to it here.

www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2015/06/the-computers-that-crashed-and-the-campaign-that-didnt-the-story-of-the-tory-stealth-operation-that-outwitted-labour.html

trisher Thu 16-Mar-17 18:54:24

Aren't they the party that are supposed to be the ones that can be trusted to run the economy? Now it seems they couldn't manage their own money? No it's much more likely to be a case of creative accounting!

Rigby46 Thu 16-Mar-17 18:52:33

I wouldn't use the word corrupt but I would say there were people involved who 'played the system'. To me the shocking part is that they had to be forced to hand over files - now that isn't on isvit?

Ilovecheese Thu 16-Mar-17 18:46:52

So do we think the Conservative party was being deliberately corrupt, or do we think they are just not very good at managing money?

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 17:26:03

I like Jon Snow's tweets.

twitter.com/jonsnowC4?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

whitewave Thu 16-Mar-17 17:17:24

Apparently the Tories wouldn't assist the Commision at all until they were forced to. Stinks doesn't it?

JessM Thu 16-Mar-17 17:16:50

The words of the Electoral Commission are pretty strong about the possibility that candidates may have had a financial advantage. They are obviously hoping that the legal process is decisive.
Suspect the Tory P will try to blame the notorious Mark Clarke who has been thrown out of the party, following allegations of bullying and a suicide of a young activist.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/17/inquiry-into-tory-bullying-scandal-finds-13-alleged-victims-of-mark-clarke
But he was a protege of Shapps who had been put in charge of the campaign despite his slightly less than totally squeaky clean ethical record. See his Wiki entry.
Shapps has been demoted. He's still an MP so he could be implicated in any criminal charges.
POGS could you catch me up on that one please? I am not familiar with that directive and what you are wondering about.

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 17:14:16

The BBC think it's important now.

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 17:12:54

It could. It depends on whether there is prison involved.
In Thanet there was over £18,000 spent on hotel bills. The local amount to be spent is £16,000. They are trying to say it was national expenditure, but Tories were giving out local leaflets. Not that I wish Farage had won, but it's bad that they think they could not have won fairly.
Tories are now saying that it's vexacious, and the police should be spending their time on more important matters.
Democracy and the law don't matter?

Ana Thu 16-Mar-17 17:09:27

You can always live in hope, whitewave...grin

whitewave Thu 16-Mar-17 17:07:34

If there is proven fraud, would that make the election null and void? They are past masters at fiddling aren't they?? Wonder how the duck house is doing!!

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 17:05:01

12 police forces have handed over files on 20 MPs.

www.theguardian.com/global/2017/mar/15/second-tory-reveals-police-investigated-him-over-spending-allegations

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 16:14:25

Despite the fact that they admitted in Conservative Home what they had been up to.

www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2015/06/the-computers-that-crashed-and-the-campaign-that-didnt-the-story-of-the-tory-stealth-operation-that-outwitted-labour.html

durhamjen Thu 16-Mar-17 16:10:25

Apparently some Tories are blaming the Electoral Commission for the rules not being explained well enough!

whitewave Thu 16-Mar-17 16:04:41

Hope so but I bet they are being lent on