Open Britain - Hard Brexit

Hello, I'm new to this thread. I would like to hear from rosesarered exactly what she is most looking forward to following the UK's departure from the EU. What, specifically, will be different? I am genuinely interested in anything more substantial than sheer rhetoric from either side.

....and can you imagine the kind of deals we would get in the future , and how we would be treated by the EU, shudder, doesn't bear thinking about!

So after all the negotiations, if 'the country' (who? The people or just the government? Will we have to have another referendum?) doesn't like the deal reached the UK can just tell the EU it's changed its mind and carry on as before...?

I don't think so, but if whitewave can produce evidence, of course I'll stand corrected.

What? You really think there is hope that we cancel it, like a hospital appointment? Not a case of wishing, it will shortly be a reality.

You wish roses

No point clinging onto faint hopes of continuing in the EU, in fact, there really aren't even any faint hopes.

From my reading of Article 50 about 2 or 3 years ago, I don't think that it is a one way street. I understood it to be a statement of intention, which will then kick start a period of negotiation. I understood that if the country considering leaving didn't like the resultant offer they could continue as a member.

All the more reason to cancel the whole wretched enterprise. It will be interesting to see Panorama on Monday evening. I just hope that TM and parliament really do see sense before it is too late.

I know that Article 50 is supposed to be a one way street but the EU and the UK government cannot continue to be so doctrinaire as to throw the baby with the bath water.

Who would have believed this?

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/vote-leave-director-admits-won-lied-public/08/02/

Apples and strawberries are quite different things to pick and test.
How long did it take for a robot hand to be developed that did not break an egg?

In principle I would say it was quite possible. I am sure something similar is being used in the sorting and packing sheds of some of the big fruit and vegetable growers to measure, for example, the amount of redness on an apple to ensure all fruit meets the colour/quality/supermarket silly standards.

In the next two years ?

There probably will eventually be machines that can pick strawberries. There already is electronic equipment that can measure the colour of an item and even its softness/hardness. The technology may nopt yet be robust enough for farm equipment, but it will be.

Sorry reposted the substance of my previous post because for some reason I couldn't see it for looking and assumed I had forgotten to press the 'post message ' button.

What no one has taken into account is that most of the regulations and rules introduced by the EU were regulations and rules that the UK government was in absolute agreement with and would have introduced themselves had not the EU saved them all the bothe. What is more most of them will be staying after Brexit.

As part of the Brexit procedure the government will be bringing before Parliament a Bill to incorporate most of these EU directives and regulations into British law.

Do they actually sell produce at car boot sales Gill?
I don't live in a small village, although there is plenty of farm land around, I have never spoken to a farmer ( never even seen one actually)

Yes rosesarered that is because I am surrounded by farmland in my case. Small, efficient, family farms, ( two of whom make a chunk of income from car boot sales. I am concerned by the terms efficiency when used in terms of farming, this usually means a drop in welfare standards and increased use of pesticides, antibiotics and fertilizers. I suppose some of the fruit farmers will revert to pick your own. Hey ho.

Don't you talk to any, roses? You live in a small village. There must be some farmers around to talk to.

A lot of Gransnetters are talking to farmers.

One of the farmers on Countryfile was saying how things such as strawberries cannot be picked by machinery as of course they only pick ripe ones so need a person to assess the ripeness - and other crops are the same.
Large organisations tend not to care for the land as the smaller individual farmers do - we have a lot to thank them for with the way they manage the hedges and ditches and make sure the proper vegetation is growing to soak up extra rainfall etc. It is the farmers who keep the countryside a joy to travel through.

I was talking to a farmer a couple of weeks ago, who is hoping to invest in GPS guided tractors. At the moment, they only work well for arable farming, but they're getting more sophisticated and could solve the problem of post-Brexit shortage of labour. His view (and I don't know how well-informed he is) was that small, efficient farms will go bankrupt and be bought out by the big national companies. He doubted that the government would replace EU farming subsidies, so they all need to become more efficient.

Exactly, POGS. The great repeal bill is meaningless, as we are just going to bring all the EU laws into UK law.
We do not have enough lawyers to work out what happens, so all those Brexiteers who are looking for quick fixes are going to be extremely disappointed for years.

Well the Great Repeal Bill ' obviously ' cannot come in before 2019 because until we have left the European Union we are still members and subject to it's rules and regulations.

Whether or not it will be 2019 is subject to how the Negotiations will go. It could be by some miracle before or after 2019. It depends how easy or hard the negotiations go and if all parties accept the need for putting economics, jobs, before politics.

instituteforgovernment.cmail19.com/t/r-l-yumjdly-hyijirukdj-u/

jackofkent.com/2017/03/why-the-great-repeal-bill-will-in-truth-be-the-great-whitehall-power-grab/

They are all going to stay for now. The Great Repeal Bill doesn't come in until 2019. Then the government has to decide what to keep and what to remove.