Brexit all done and dusted?

General election, 8th June.

In that case the 1975 Referendum (The Common Market) could be used to say we are leaving the EU because the United Kingdom didn't mean to stay in the European Union , we were only joking all along , it was never legally binding and we should have told you so from the start. Sorry.

Why doesn't Nicola Sturgeon simply say the SNP , Scottish Parliament ( as she has the overall majority) say " Ha Ha , stick your 2014 Referendum where the sun don't shine , it was only an opinion . Scotland is Off.

Simple isn't it.

I think some people are being very hopeful. Brexit will happen.

From Open Britain.

www.open-britain.co.uk/james_mcgrory_on_bbc_radio_wm

www.open-britain.co.uk/is_there_a_leave_campaign_promise_still_standing

A young friend has just shared a link on FB, some spreadsheet sort of thing about tactical voting published in the Indie. It's headed up "How to stop Brexit". Now, I understood that there is no longer a way to stop Brexit, just get the settlement that's best for us, and that's the way all the parties are talking, including the Liberals.

Have I got it wrong? After all, if the Indie says Brexit can actually be reversed.... Are they lying?

In theory I guess it could, but that would mean ignoring the referendum or setting up another and getting a different result. But maybe what was being said was that the right coalition could opt for a very soft Brexit - leave the EU but signup to all the 4 freedoms including unrestricted immigration rights to all EU citizens?

I thought the triggering of Article 50 meant no going back. And yes, all the opposition parties seem to be opting for a soft Brexit, which is what I think Ms May is really aiming at too, although negotiations mean starting from a hard place. But the headline said How to STOP Brexit. Reverse it. Have any of the parties suggested another referendum?

Labour are apparently thinking about calling for another referendum to accept or reject the final deal. But no detail as far as I know about what actually happens if it's rejected. I doubt this idea will make it into their manifesto.

Re TMs potentially soft Brexit, the problem is she says she won't give in on freedom of movement, and the EU say that's an absolute requirement for any form of soft Brexit. I'm not at all sure what the other parties are suggesting. They say they want in unencumbered access to the single market but I've not seen any of them saying they would also agree to complete freedom of movement.

A50 appears to be revocable; the guy who wrote it certainly thinks so.

Nkf Dumpling

That is why Theresa May has called a snap General Election.

The opposition parties say we uphold the democratic vote result of the EU Referendum but then go on to say how they can / will scupper it.

If the SNP, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens do as some have called for and form a coalition of the left then they could win by overriding the General Election result 'if' the Conservative Party win the General Election.

Unless of course Theresa May 'get's the numbers' in the General Election AND her MP's do not rebel, Brexit could be scuppered even after 2 years of negotiations.

But I understood that if Brexit is scuppered after two years of negotiations we still have to leave - but it would be with nothing.

It is Liberal Democrat policy to have a referendum after the terms are known, with people given the choice of accepting the deal or rejecting it and staying in the EU.

Article 50 is not irrevocable.

If Labour are suddenly supporting this policy, that is to be welcomed, but it may not convince those who see Labour's stance on Brexit as muddled, and prefer the clear pro-EU stance of the LibDems.

The Lib Dems are alone in wanting another referendum/staying in the EU as both the Conservatives and Labour Party are willing to implement the result of the referendum.Quite rightly!

This stance will win the Lib Dems some votes and also lose some.

The really interesting thing is not whether Brexit will be implemented - that's yesterday's news. What I want to know is

What is being implemented?

As has been said so many times before whitewave, you'll just have to wait and see! No use asking GN members...(although I know you keep trying).

Wait and see!!!!! That old chestnut!! And no I'm not asking GN members, they know no more than the rest of the country. I want to be able to read the various manifestos and come up with a good idea of what the Post Brexit Britain will look like - after all we will not be able to vote again before 2022 (if we are still here)

There has never been a referendum on leaving the EEA, which is what guarantees freedom of movement. There are likely to be legal challenges, so anybody who voted Leave could still end up very disappointed.

Presuming, of course, that that's why they voted Leave.

Yes dd I was interested to read a while back that we are members of that. Cor interesting innit??

Not really...I thought everyone knew.

If free movement wasn't the reason they voted Leave, they won't be disappointed. I thought that's what I wrote.

It does,of course, mean that the UK would have to pay to be in the EEA.

I'm not convinced that everybody does know the implications of their vote nor what Brexit means.

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