Brexit all done and dusted?

whitewave

" I know that employment is beginning to fall now but up until recently we had what the economist would describe as full employment. "

Really. Employment falling . Full Employment .

Is the economist who would describe as full employment a person or The Economist Magazine/Newspaper.

Essential jobs should be recognised for being that and paid accordingly.
I agree Welshwife

I know that employment is beginning to fall now but up until recently we had what the economist would describe as full employment. So presumably everyone could find a job if they wished? I know some of the jobs are rubbish but under your terms jalima it would help pay the bills.

DD 'wiped bums' when she was working as a TA (special needs).
She learned an awful lot more than how to wipe a bum or change a nappy on primary age children.

Going out with my tribe now, you may be pleased to hear!

sorry daphnedill but I know for sure that Eastern Europeans were encouraged to come here to do jobs that you may consider 'dirty' and were given accommodation, bussed in to do those jobs and that local people who had been doing those jobs lost them as a result. Picking in local warehouses (very clean in fact) - great for the employers who probably paid less, great for the Eastern Europeans but not so great for locals who could not pay their bills because they were no longer required.

Article today by Professor Blanchflower, of Harvard.

"In response to the news that the EU supporting Macron had got into the second round and looked likely to win the presidency the markets responded positively and rose sharply. Conversely the markets would have dropped sharply if Le Pen looked the likely winner.
This is an indication of the scale of what could happen in the U.K. Markets if there is a disorderly Brexit disaster. It would likely result in a cataclysmic global fall in markets.

Support for Brexit is likely to be driven by how the economy performs and whether living standards hold up, and they aren't.
Last week (a report) indicated that wage growth had slowed and inflation had risen to a three year high. Consumer demand was holding, but it is based on higher borrowing and disabling, but it won't last.
The saving ratio has reached the lowest since records began in 1963.

There isn't much good news. Life expectancy fell over the past three years for men and women. Employment fell between December 2016 and February 2017.
Britains trade deficit is widening, as exports fell and imports rose."

daphnedil

"There'll still be plenty of jobs in the UK - if you fancy picking potatoes and wiping bums."

"Face up to it. Eastern European have been doing dirty jobs for years - jobs British people didn't want to do."

You might have a point by saying British people don't want to do some jobs, ask yourself why? They must be getting more money than working for it unless they have a disability.

I 'wiped bums' for a while as a part time carer in a nursing home. It was a very rewarding job in my opinion.

Your comments are crass and don't forget nurses 'wipe bums', farmers pick crops.

Apart from the type of job - we have a DiL who is a care worker and absolutely loves the job and would not change. Works in a sort of sheltered housing place so no longer has driving around between jobs. - it is the low money they are paid. Essential jobs should be recognised for being that and paid accordingly. Same goes for harvesting and packaging food etc - essential work.
British people tend to want 'clean' jobs in a clean environment.
After so much misinformation with the Referendum people really do not know what to believe any more. The first time I see a 'fact' unless I am really happy with the source I tend to check it out in other places. Some papers and news sites headline things as new amazing facts when they are old news. I saw one this morning about the Irish Court deciding that A50 could be reversed - thought that was old news! But it was a sensational headline.
Only now are many of the facts the experts came up with coming to fruition - later than they forecast but still happening. I notice that many are failing to make headlines with parts of the press.

Your opinion Jalima.

Face up to it. Eastern European have been doing dirty jobs for years - jobs British people didn't want to do.

This site, EUobserver, is a not-for-profit, independent online newspaper established in Brussels in 2000.

From its homepage: We value free thinking and plain speech and aim to support European democracy by giving people the information they need to hold the EU establishment to account.

It reports news about Brexit negotiations as they happen.

euobserver.com/static/about

The EU itself publishes ongoing news about negotiations, but I can't find the link at the moment.

Even the European media reports more than I've been able to find out from our own government or the British media.

There'll still be plenty of jobs in the UK - if you fancy picking potatoes and wiping bums.

That is such an unpleasant comment daphnedill and demeans anyone who does do those essential jobs.

The referendum was characterised by lies, Brexit is being characterised by suppression. Suppression of facts, suppression of negotiating stance.

Exactly dj. The Poles can go back to Poland and we can pick the potatoes. Sorted! They're going back anyway. Wages are rising fast in Poland.

Is he skilled in picking potatoes, Ww?

When people claimed that the economy would become a bargain basement sweat shop economy, they were told it was Project Fear. They were right.

Sorry to be flippant about potatoes. I'm just so bl**dy angry.

Why isn't it headline news that the EU has excluded financial services from any EU-UK trade negotiations?

The City of London will be allowed access to the single market in the future only if it signs up to the EU’s regulatory and supervisory standards, which includes submitting itself to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, which is likely to be unacceptable to the government.

The public was reassured repeatedly before the referendum that financial services wouldn't lose passporting rights.

Well that is to start with Fitzy - they have said it is because of Brexit - they may well be doing a phased exit from the UK depending on how things go - also must depend somewhat on how much of their UK production is sold in UK.

There are so many jobs moving to the Continent - a few hundred here and there but it all adds up. I heard from a friend yesterday who has a son working in the City and his job is being moved to Europe and he is being made redundant - they had just had a mortgage approved.

DJ are you sure? I really doubt you are right. It's not as though they are moving out of the UK completely, just one product.

The main reason for the move is that Nestle is a Swiss company, and knows the problems of having to negotiate deals. It doesn't need another third country, when it can go directly to Poland.
It should please Brexiteers, as Polish workers will be able to go back to Poland and get decent jobs.

theconversation.com/eu-agencies-a-brexit-loss-nobodys-talking-about-76222

Cheaper!

Yes DJ. My guess is that the main reason for the move is the usual one - cheaer labour and other overheads. But none of us really know.

As you say, dj construction is the most volatile sector of the economy and a downturn in architectural commissions is a worrying sign.

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/24/foster-partners-redundancies-brexit-staff-london

The RIBA, like so many other professional and business organisations, is working on the assumption that Brexit is inevitable. Ok, we need some contingency planning but I think that assumption needs to be challenged.

Hedging your bets there, Fitzy.

Cheers fitz

But i should add that it didn't actually say that the earlier reports to the effect that it would have happened anyway were wrong.