Brexit all done and dusted?

It is about £195 a week. 196/7 = 28. The discrepancy between 28 million and 24 million could be as a result of slightly different accounting methods or because different years have been used.

£195 a week! Yes, very different accounting methods must have been used...

whatever it is.....it's too much! but not for much longer, happily.

So rose I assume that you will not be willing to pay a brass farthing to the EU in future?

Well, if they were still in currency I would! They could even have two a week such is my generosity...

fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

So Germany is as immoral as us when it comes to migrant workers?!! I'm truly amazed that not only is it ok for them to work for less, but don't enjoy the same legal protection in Germany, the bastion of the EU, and all the good that comes from it! Not if you're a foreign worker clearly!!!

nigglynellie You would weep if you could see how the migrant workers in Spain live.

I apologise for not being able to do a link but today I followed a link - goodness knows how they did it - from a Facebook page to an article on the Leave website. It was about UK exports to EU after Brexit. It seems that the goods will need to go through Le Havre or Dunkirk as Calais and the other ports do not have the checking facilities that will be needed. And at both these ports the French will need to invest 20 million to increase capacity. The problems in Dover will be immense and is likely to cause the sort of operation stack on the M20 that we see anytime there is a strike etc. Clearing/checking times for cars will double and it goes on and on. From N Ireland to the South will mean the goods going through Dublin or Shannon both of which would involve a sea journey or flight rather than the nip across the road border it is now.
The list of rules and regulations which would need to be implemented is enormous and of course if there were delays quite a bit of food stuff would deteriorate and some would be no good at all on arrival at the destination.
I am so miffed there was no link to copy as there were ten pages of information. Leave alliance seems to be the group which posted this article which has references on each page. It would appear to be a bone fide organisation. Maybe one of our clever with the link members could find it. I was very surprised at how bad the future picture was painted for Uk exports and als trade with USA and Canada.

WW we lost our right to veto all EU law proposals when qualified majority voting was introduced for certain issues.

Link re qualified majority voting in council of ministers:

www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2014/545697/EPRS_ATA(2014)545697_REV1_EN.pdf

I'm sure I would. A report of how Eastern European long distance drivers (Ikea!!) are paid and treated was truly shocking. Apparently they are paid in conjunction with the country of pick up point. The fact that their journeys take them all over Western Europe where living costs are phenomenally higher than the country of origin, costs they simply cannot afford doesn't seem to be of any concern to the EU! You're right, the EU isn't perfect that's for sure!

I'm delighted we're getting out absolutely delighted And I'm sure you really know deep down the EU will come crumbling down within the next 5 years. Hooray!

You must have missed this bit, Fitzy

From your link:

^Larger MemberStates such as Germany, France, and the UK on the other hand are seen as the main beneficiaries of the
change.^

Will this link do for you Welshwife?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/12/catastrophe-looms-at-ports-after-brexit-shipping-industry-warns

You are so pleasant, aren't you, saaki.
You will be affected as well, you know. Hooray!

Oh, and this on our 'weekly contribution' from Full Fact

£350 million a week doesn’t include the rebate but uses better figures
It’s also been claimed that we send £350 million a week to the EU. That also misses out the rebate, although is based on better figures for the UK’s contributions.
£350 million is what we would pay to the EU budget, without the rebate.
But the UK actually pays just under £250 million a week

fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

So, according to them we're both wrong, petra

Why would you want an alliance which has done far more good and prevented wars breaking out to fail and come crashing down? Only this week the EU were saying how conflicts have been averted because they talk rather than fight. Russia would be delighted to see it fail as they will be able to pick off their near neighbours before travelling further afield - that is a real danger.
We stupidly have voted to leave an organisation with more good points than faults and which greatly contributed to the improvement in living conditions of most of the U.K. population. The whole of Europe has benefitted from co- operation.
The U.K will be kept out of many EU collaborated ventures - one of the first is the GPS satellite programme. This will be a loss of millions to the UK economy. Add in the contracts which will not be renewed when they end in the next few years and we get lots more unemployment and loss of trade. I hope that the young people who will find it far more difficult to have meaningful careers in the Uk are able to find fulfilment in other countries. It may well leave the UK depleted of talent but as TM keeps telling us it is the will of the people.

195 EU nationals work in the UK parliament. I wonder what would happen if they were all sent back where they came from.

Thank you Maizie that was not the link I read today - I saw that one previously - the other report was more official looking with references and was ten pages long but with very specific information. The Guardian report gives the bones of the awful situation we are likely to encounter.

I'm wondering if France will just let all those troublesome asylum seekers and refugees who want to get to the UK just hop onto trains and ferries at Calais.

That fullfact link has been put on twice, Maizie, so it must be right!

I can see no reason why the French will stop them coming here, Maizie. In fact, it will be cheaper and easier for them.
It's what Brexiteers want, anyway, to have control of our own borders.

Mazie I didn't miss the bit you mention. What it meant was that under previous QM rules we had even less of a right to veto than under the new rules, but in either case no state has an absolute right to veto. But I really don't know why you are so troubled by this. You (like me) are a remainer. But no way would I support the EU if it wasn't for QM voting, because absolutely nothing would ever get done. If you really want the UK to be in the EU, you should embrace the idea of partial - but voluntary - loss of sovereignty, and not be taken in by the leaver stance that it is a bad thing. EU laws are more heavily scrutinised and debated than any other laws and as such are in general pretty good. No overnight setting up of selective schools on the whim of a new prime minister or surprise new taxes that have never been debated at all!

So presumably you approve of the way migrant workers are treated in the EU. I imagine you think the conditions Eastern European lorry drivers are expected to work under perfectly acceptable?! I must say I am truly surprised at such anti socialist behaviour being ignored without a murmur of disapproval!

Migrant workers only? Ummmm it's across the board. British non skilled and working class are being treated exactly the same. This will not stop until migration in this bracket of employment is stopped. It's well documented.