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Brexit all done and dusted?

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Cindersdad Sun 02-Apr-17 16:47:13

As an arch REMOANER I for one (of many) will not simply roll over and say that is that. As things progress at the very least parliament must ensure that the country does not Brexit in a bad way because of "The Will of the People". So many lies were told by both side at the time of referendum that when the full facts come to light a re-think should be considered.

I have yet to hear a sound reason for voting LEAVE. Of course the EU is far from perfect but we are better trying to change it from within than sniping from outside. A general election or second referendum before the point of absolute no return.

I happen to be visiting Brussels on an educational trip after Easter so until then I will put up and shut up unless really provoked.

Rigby46 Sat 15-Apr-17 18:42:02

I'll believe your comment when you provide the link that shows what you posted was true.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 18:43:05

Will let you go search to prove me wrong Rigby.

Jalima1108 Sat 15-Apr-17 18:46:00

I think the OP referred to himself as a 'Remoaner' MaizieD!

It was tongue in cheek I'm sure, but nonetheless it is in the OP.
In fact An arch REMOANER

Rigby46 Sat 15-Apr-17 18:52:24

I'll decline your kind suggestion saak do your own research before you post 'facts'

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 18:57:38

I said "I think you will find" I didn't say it was a fact. You took it upon yourself to tell me what I stated.

MaizieD Sat 15-Apr-17 19:38:33

Jalima I was responding to saak's derogatory post about the House of Lords. Being 'remoaners' clearly puts them completely beyond the pale...

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 19:40:44

derogatory? really? most were until they were told otherwise smile

MaizieD Sat 15-Apr-17 19:41:00

Oh, and perhaps fraud can only be expected of 'remoaners'...

Which makes one wonder why UKIP are being investigated for fraud...

MaizieD Sat 15-Apr-17 19:41:59

derogatory? really? most were until they were told otherwise

What on earth are you on about saak?

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 19:45:12

I didn't say that Maizie. I said that if you look back at the expenses fraud most of them are in the remoaner camp, if there needs to be one. I don't give a damn about who's in or who's out to be fair. Democracy (which I agree with) has, at last come to fruition. I was one of the people that chose sense over monetary value for the few.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 19:48:36

You typed derogatory not me Maizie.
I said I thought that most of the remoaners were taken to task over their expenses due to another poster claiming that UKIP were being prosecuted, how a party as a whole can be I have no idea.

durhamjen Sat 15-Apr-17 22:39:04

The conservative party has been charged with fraud and agreed to pay £70,000.
Did you miss that somehow, saak?

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 22:48:31

Oh dear durhamjen. I was responding to someone saying that UKIP were fraudsters. I don't really think, to be fair, that brexit had much to do with political parties that were in power at the time. It was more to do with 10 years of every day people to be quiet over what they actually saw happening.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 22:49:03

*having to

durhamjen Sat 15-Apr-17 23:02:33

Oh dear, saak, you said you did not see how a political party as a whole could be prosecuted. I was just showing you that they can. So can UKIP in the EU.

durhamjen Sat 15-Apr-17 23:07:27

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/15/britain-set-to-lose-eu-crown-jewels

Can't say you weren't warned, Brexiteers.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 23:08:28

well you are far more up on the "arm chair" political front. I have to bow down to your knowledge then. I will never bow down to what was happening to ordinary people during the last 10 years, hence brexit. I tend to wonder why you are so full of such knowledge and so combative? do you have the news channel on 24/7. Really? why can't you accept a democratic vote?

durhamjen Sat 15-Apr-17 23:17:33

I haven't been on since 4.00 p.m.
I've just come on now to put you right.

MaizieD Sat 15-Apr-17 23:19:29

I know it's a bit of a pointless discussion which might bore some people, but I'd be really interested to know what the EU did in the last 10 years to cause brexit saak. Why the last 10 years and not the previous 30?

You see, I think I'm a pretty ordinary person and I can't for the life of me think of any time when the EU has harmed me in any way. Bankers, yes; the tories, yes; but not the EU.

stillaliveandkicking Sat 15-Apr-17 23:55:20

Maybe being in the EU didn't harm you Maizie D.
Live in a place where mass eu immigration hasn't affected you?

stillaliveandkicking Sun 16-Apr-17 00:06:40

You tell me of one country that prospers from being dictated to by brussels?

We weren't such fools to enter into the currency, now we are even less thank god.
Im so glad we are getting out of such a dictate. It was a nice idea but now has no place. Even the way we are being threatened over and over again is showing me I am right.
Remoaners are doing the same. Funny how people that profess to be so "balanced" are weirdly unaccepting.

stillaliveandkicking Sun 16-Apr-17 00:10:00

Junkers was practically frothing at the mouth last time I saw him on the tv. He's also said some very nasty things since.

stillaliveandkicking Sun 16-Apr-17 00:20:06

Someone is so obsessive about politics that they really have no clue about do they have a life?

MaizieD Sun 16-Apr-17 00:29:15

Apart from the perceived evil of mass immigration how has the EU harmed ordinary people? That's what I was asking for clarification on.

JessM Sun 16-Apr-17 07:17:14

In the PM's Easter message she mentions a sense of "people coming together". Not sure what circles she is moving in. The words "Yes Prime Minister" spring to mind. 99% of my acquaintance still see leaving the EU as a disaster in the making.