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Brexit all done and dusted?

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Cindersdad Sun 02-Apr-17 16:47:13

As an arch REMOANER I for one (of many) will not simply roll over and say that is that. As things progress at the very least parliament must ensure that the country does not Brexit in a bad way because of "The Will of the People". So many lies were told by both side at the time of referendum that when the full facts come to light a re-think should be considered.

I have yet to hear a sound reason for voting LEAVE. Of course the EU is far from perfect but we are better trying to change it from within than sniping from outside. A general election or second referendum before the point of absolute no return.

I happen to be visiting Brussels on an educational trip after Easter so until then I will put up and shut up unless really provoked.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 21:50:20

No. It still does not make sense.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:50:10

My opinion Durham is that you constantly post in the manner of that little fella on Gullivers Travels, you come across as a very negative person. For a working class woman that has seen what mass immigration has done over the last few years, I'm absolutely delighted that Brexit is happening. I have also watched what out of touch greedy government has done to this country. It's a breath of fresh air and a fight (metaphorically speaking) that I'm willing to go all out for. I never thought that the average person would ever have a say again. We do now and I'm delighted.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:40:27

*no I won't.

Is that better Durham?

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:37:36

If you mean I should apologise or somehow puff up my views to suit others, then the answer is no.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 21:36:54

What?
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stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:31:30

You can meet whom you like for an IQ test saak. You'd probably fail!"

No not particularly, do you?

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 21:20:39

Do you get your kicks out of being aggressive saak? How sad!

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:18:55

what barrel? what on earth are you on about?

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 21:17:47

You can meet whom you like for an IQ test saak. You'd probably fail! grin

Oh dear! You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:17:30

If you didn't realise durham, you didn't make any sense there whatsoever grin send a link or elaborate.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 21:08:35

If she didn't realise herself, Welshwife, she was certainly put on message again.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 21:08:09

I personally want the Australian system to be adopted. It will take a bit of time but it will happen. What Priti said is clearly a clanger and based on jack shite.

Welshwife Mon 08-May-17 21:01:32

You may be opting for closed borders SAAK but countries do not just give the deal one country wants - it is give and take - and many countries want as many visas for their population or open borders for them all.
Did you not notice Priti Patel tell the Indian Continent once we left the EU they would have free access to the UK? She said it publicly during the Referendum campaign. However I think she must have realised it was a bit of an own goal as she never said it again.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 20:21:11

Now if you had something to say about the "process' then fair enough. But you haven't as it's not begun yet, so stop living in the past and realise that no amount of "remoaning/wanting to remain" is going to change the fact that we are getting out. Just think about all the links you can send soon!

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 20:14:52

Its done durham, get with the programme and "move on"

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 20:13:27

oh dear durham, challenge your views and you come up with this.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 20:02:04

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stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:57:12

Not sure what you mean Welshwife? We are opting, well I am for the borders to be closed to anyone other than people we actually need. However we shouldn't actually 'need' anyone, we have more than enough people in our country to fill our jobs if we put our resources into training.

Welshwife Mon 08-May-17 19:51:49

Not at all - many countries the Uk has shown an interest in doing trade deals also want virtual free access to the UK for all their population - India for example.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:45:01

*no

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:42:41

Have idea what you are on about welsh, was that a pop at being obtuse?

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:41:27

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Welshwife Mon 08-May-17 19:39:45

Might be a problem with having closed doors - or ones which are only open a crack - and trying to trade with anyone!

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:33:32

Part of the "majority" that voted to get out of the EU. That was one of the best days of my life.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 08-May-17 19:29:56

The "open door" policy and "free movement" is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my lifetime. Other countries in the "EU" are in uproar about exactly the same thing. Mass immigration does not and will never work for the population as a 'whole'.

The "european court" has no right to overthrow our own judgement on matter of "our" laws.

We should and shall be able to trade with whom when we want when we want.

I'm delighted that we are leaving, it's the best thing Ive ever heard.