Prince Harry speaks out.

I understand depression but not maybe acute depression[is there such a term and thing?].
I have to say that the people I know who have had depression have had hope. Which did see them through[along with other things like pills].

Hmm...doesn't sound like acute depression - possibly feeling a bit down?

No. I am talking about clinical depression cases diagnosed by a GP.
Are there stages of depression beyond that? Is depression measured in stages? I guess it is though thankfully have never had occasion to find out before now.

After reading all the posts on this subject, I'm still of the opinion that Harry did a good thing in opening up about his depression and that he had sought professional help. As a pp said, if it helps just one person to seek help, that's a good thing, not a negative course of action. Maybe, just maybe, his disclosure will help to provide more assistance being given to those who need it. But I'm an optimistic kind of person, not a negative one.

Absolutely agree, Chewbacca.

I'm sure it's possible for some people suffering from clinical depression to feel hope that they'll eventually be free from this awful illness, but for some there is no feeling of hope or optimism, just greyness.

(sorry, last paragraph of my post was meant for Abonet)

I agree Ana.

"Depression" is an overused word. I'm reluctant to say that some people are "just a bit down" or even "very down" because I don't know what really goes on in some people's minds.

I can assure you abonet that there is such a thing as acute depression and the effects can be devastating.

People have already started looking for reasons for Harry's depression and assume that somebody can wave a magic wand and everything will be fine.I hope it is, but the public will probably never know.

There are triggers which can be prevented, but not when there is no recognisable reason.

When depression (or any other mental health condition) affects a person to the extent that people lose their job or their marriage, there's a downward spiral with financial problems leading to further problems...and so it goes on.

Without support and understanding, depression becomes chronic and lifelong.

^No. I am talking about clinical depression cases diagnosed by a GP.
Are there stages of depression beyond that? Is depression measured in stages?^

Oh for goodness' sake! I have a sense of "déjà vu" and am not going to answere such naive and silly questions.

That's correct daphnedill. I hope that the cuts to mental health services is raised during the June election campaign.

It's true that the relationship between the therapist/social worker/psychiatrist/psychologist/ community psychiatric nurse etc is consistently found by research to be the key issue. " Counselling" isn't as well regulated as it should be and as in all fields of work, some therapists or counsellors are better than others. Six sessions of CBT is just not going to work for the large numbers of people whose mental health problems were triggered by not having secure housing/employment for example.

Same here daphne.

Having lived with someone for many years who suffered (&still does) from depression,I would sadly say it is something that you learn to manage & live with,but knowing that you can speak about it openly & knowing that people from all walks of life suffer too(no matter who that person is or what the reasons are for their suffering) is a good thing. Sounds like some posters think that being financially well off de-bars a person from passing comment or wishing to help or share their experiences

Have looked it up. The diagnosis either appears to be mild, moderate or severe.
If you google acute depression[which I have never heard of] it comes up as Major Depressive Disorder[clinical Depression].
So clinical depression appears to be the severe one.

No more stages beyond that one.

Well if Google says so, it must be true Abonet.

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Iam64 I'm sure LibDem MP, Norman Lamb, will raise the issue of mental health. He's a tireless campaigner.

I have no idea what you are talking about Abonet
You appear to be a fairly new member, having only contributed in the last few days, so what you claim can't be the case, can it?
Nobody's business but my own but reports of any "warning" from HQ are greatly exaggerated.
Perhaps you would like to identify where and how you feel you have been bullied (didn't take long did it?)
Then we would all benefit from your enlightenment.

If they didnt give you a warning, they told me that they were going to have a word with you.

I have told them of your latest postings today, so they can deal with it.

What you do and have done before, and what you were warned about by gransnet before, is a crime, and police do take it seriously

I may be wrong, but unfounded accusations of criminal activity might either constitute slander or libel.
Now both of those ARE illegal, so perhaps you would prefer to withdraw your accusations?

MawBroon Mon 17-Apr-17 22:48:20

I think that ignoring a bully works sometimes. And not other times

Abonet you seem to have taken on the mantle of gnomic utterances from a past member who used to spout bestow the same clichés mysterious words of wisdom.

This was an earlier utterance from you to me today. I cant be bothered to find the other one for now.

I will find the police link to back up what I am saying about what you are doing and have done.

Gransnet has the previous records and there are many witnesses!

OFGS Abonet, your identity is obvious and I'm sure that GNHQ will soon be having a word with you. Yet again.

www.gov.uk/bullying-at-school/the-law

This relates to schools but the same principals no doubt apply to adult behaviour too.

Ana, even Gransnet has to take the law into account!

MawBroon also sent me 3 PMs a while back. I didnt reply to any of them.

All clinical depression means is that it was diagnosed by a medical practitioner and has no relevance to its severity. It just differentiates it from ' feeling low' which a ot of people self diagnose as depression.