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Prince Harry speaks out.

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Nelliemoser Mon 17-Apr-17 17:43:29

I hope this is the only thread.
All I can say is this young man has at last impressed me. For any one with a macho image to admit that they have mental health problems has taken a big step. Given his royal status and the Windsors previously "buttoned up" attitudes this is a good step forward.
Maybe his work with ? "Help for Heros" has helped him to acknowledge his issues. Losing your mum at 12 must have been devastating." It is particularly good coming from a man as in general men are not good at talking about such things.
Whatever our opinions of the monarch he deserves some credit for talking about this.

Riverwalk Tue 18-Apr-17 20:39:22

Sussing-out an obvious multiple name-changer is not bullying, and certainly not a police matter! grin

MawBroon Tue 18-Apr-17 20:42:15

I have NEVER sent a PM to you Abonet, don't talk tosh! Now you are getting silly.

Ana Tue 18-Apr-17 20:53:00

Abonet, I am reporting you to GNHQ, which is something I virtually never do, because you're making wild accusations. If there had been anything 'criminal' in any post it would have been dealt with. Get over yourself.

Galen Tue 18-Apr-17 20:53:09

Going back to depression.
There is exogenous depression i.e. Caused by external problems
Endogenous depression no obvious reason
And reactive depression. Caused by things like bereavement or loosing your job.
Does all this help?

Abonet Tue 18-Apr-17 20:58:46

MawBroon - you did to another name!

Ana - I reported it all about 1 hour ago

Abonet Tue 18-Apr-17 21:00:52

Ana, it has to be a build up of activity to be criminal. Which is what has happened over several or many months.

Ana Tue 18-Apr-17 21:01:22

You didn't report your own ridiculous posts though, did you?

MawBroon Tue 18-Apr-17 21:01:32

PM's are, by definition just that.
However, in the interests of openness, I admit I did send one to Ankers to say how delighted I was to hear that her DD was about to have a baby (2Feb)
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Pamish Tue 18-Apr-17 21:03:46

Can anyone think of a better way to lay down problems for a child, than parading him in front of millions of people via the world's press, hours after his mother had been killed? All sane people thought at the time that this was a horrible vicious thing to do for the sake of - what? Protocol? Not wanting to muss church as it was just another Sunday morning?

mcem Tue 18-Apr-17 21:04:53

Here we go again. Pretending to be a new member of GN but harking back to 'historical' slights, offences and accusations.
Quote the GN rules. Issue threats to report. Ask GNHQ to tell off the naughty posters. Etc etc etc ad infinitum!
Get a grip and grow up now you're a granny.
Be careful of the laws of libel- you could be coming close!!
And stop withering on about a serious issue which concerns many of us whether personally or within our family circles!

Penstemmon Tue 18-Apr-17 21:12:28

Abonet if you have had disagreements with GN posters, in the past, that by your own admission you have reported and felt had been dealt with by GNHQ I think it is wrong to bring it all up on another thread. I really think that contravenes GN guidelines. Also if you are a person who has posted on GN previously under another name it seems a bit mischievous to return with a wooden spoon!

norose4 Tue 18-Apr-17 21:13:05

Thanks Nellimoser for your thread, such a shame that a couple of individuals seem to have hijacked it for a silly tiresome childish squabble , about what I'm not sure ?

Penstemmon Tue 18-Apr-17 21:30:44

Sorry nellie for getting sidetracked on a worthwhile discussion.flowers

I am not a big fan of royalty and Harry's behaviour has sometimes not been the best ambassador for "the firm". However I cannot criticise his genuine support for improved services for mental health and the service personnel. Good for him speaking out!

Gaggi3 Tue 18-Apr-17 21:58:38

It's amazing, to me, that no-one in the fairly large group of people surrounding Prince Harry thought he, and William, might need help after such a traumatic experience.
Good for him, raising awareness,but we also need to make help more available and accessible for those in need. Mental health services are badly in need of funding and resources.

Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 22:06:55

But how do you know he wasn't offered help?

Abonet Tue 18-Apr-17 22:08:29

Plus two others MawBroon. Dont forget to mention them!

This is what happens when people confront a bully directly on a thread! It doesnt work well enough, so better to use other channels and avenues.

MawBroon Tue 18-Apr-17 22:10:44

Mental health charities have been the poor relation of charities for too long.
My SIL, whom I met for the first time 10 years ago when DD brought him to her sister's 30th, earned instant "Brownie points" in my eyes as a caring young man with a conscience, when he told me he did the Great North Run each year (and subsequently also the London Marathon) to raise funds for the mental health charity RETHINK because of a schoolfriend who had developed schizophrenia when they were in their teens.
I am not saying any charity is not deserving of support but when you see how much is raised for example by Children in Need, it is good to know that there is an increasing awareness of the mental health needs of young people.

Iam64 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:09:23

Prince William has spoken about the shock of his mothers death. This was during a meeting with a woman whose child died, then her husband committed suicide weeks later.
We have a general election - let's hope the ohs and other public services get some attention, not just Brexit.

Anniebach Wed 19-Apr-17 09:13:53

William has given an interview which will be aired Thursday.

MargaretX Wed 19-Apr-17 10:24:58

I see his main problem in the fact that he was made to walk behind the coffin of his dead motherwith millions watching. They should not have made him do this. The Queen wanted to remain in Scotland with her grandsons but had to come back to London to 'grieve' properly.

Harry should put the blame where it belongs. Being left motherless is a situation which thousands of children have to face and are still facing.

Harry once said he thought of his mum everyday and I think that this is not usual in someone who has become an adult and has his life with his own family before him.
That is how others who lost their mothers have coped.
Asa for talking about it I think he could get on with it and keep quiet about it. If he continues to spread his privete thoughts all over the newspapers he will not recover.

daphnedill Wed 19-Apr-17 10:41:21

It's up to Harry whether he talks about it or not. He might find it cathartic.

One of the big differences between talking to a counsellor and a friend (even a well-meaning one) about mental health issues, is that a counsellor will not use words such as "blame", "fault" or "should". They don't give advice.

It's especially difficult for Harry, because the whole world and its gossip columns watch and judge him. Everybody seems to think they "know" the royal family and seem to think they know who's or what's to blame and what they should do.

MawBroon Wed 19-Apr-17 14:01:12

Now that accusations of criminal activity which were l levelled at me have been deleted I hope this thread will stay back on track and not "slide down the Active page " as all mental health issues, not only of young people are much in need of publicity and funding for their diagnosis and treatment.
As a parent it is heartbreaking to see one's child suffering from any physical illness but how much worse even when mental illness is hidden or unacknowledged.

Azie09 Wed 19-Apr-17 14:18:52

Just returned from a holiday and took a quick look at the site. Same old stuff, let's have a row between ourselves and criticise someone we've never met on the basis of our own prejudices and opinions.

As Daphnedill says, it's up to Harry how he responds to his mother's death. Early parental death is something that throws a shadow over a whole life, it isn't something you just 'get over' especially if you come from a dysfunctional family and you know your father made a sham marriage while continuing to shag his mistress and expect his wife to get over it.

All praise to Harry for his army career, his work for the disabled and now his openness in describing publically his depression and grieving thus encouraging others to recognise mental health problems and to seek help for themselves and others. If only mental health services were properly funded.

Anniebach Wed 19-Apr-17 14:31:08

Worrying the army didn't pick up on mental health problems , I doubt he had mental health problems though, emotional problems definitely and a mother with serious mental health problems from a young age

Penstemmon Wed 19-Apr-17 14:32:25

Well said Azie09