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Prince Harry speaks out.

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Nelliemoser Mon 17-Apr-17 17:43:29

I hope this is the only thread.
All I can say is this young man has at last impressed me. For any one with a macho image to admit that they have mental health problems has taken a big step. Given his royal status and the Windsors previously "buttoned up" attitudes this is a good step forward.
Maybe his work with ? "Help for Heros" has helped him to acknowledge his issues. Losing your mum at 12 must have been devastating." It is particularly good coming from a man as in general men are not good at talking about such things.
Whatever our opinions of the monarch he deserves some credit for talking about this.

Riverwalk Mon 24-Apr-17 12:58:23

..... the duke of Windsor was the most balanced of the four brothers , the government were in a panic when talk of his abdication started, it left the other three and they were mentally disturbed

Annie you seem to be a bit of an expert on the Royal Family so can you elaborate on the above statement?

I know George VI was a bit delicate and had a stammer but I've never seen him described as 'mentally disturbed'.

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 12:28:09

Mental illness knows nothing of wealth , status, birthright. I think wealth makes it easier to find help , in fact it does.

And grief can cause mental illnesses , it can also cause people to go off the rails, this does not mean they are mentally ill, it can mean great anger

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 12:22:54

Phillip must be proud of his mother, awarded the highest honour to non Jews by Israel - righteous among the Nations, this for saving the lives of Jews by hiding them in her home.

She also sold her jewels to build an orphanage

Phillip was only nine when he was made homeless yet here some choose to mock him . Nine with no parents and no home.

No mention that the queens family had mental health problems , the duke of Windsor was the most balanced of the four brothers , the government were in a panic when talk of his abdication started, it left the other three and they were mentally disturbed

POGS Mon 24-Apr-17 12:12:20

Now Prince Phillip has been brought into the equation I would think that given his mothers mental health issues he and his family including William and Harry are perfectly aware of mental health issues.

Anybody who is incapable of accepting having experience of mental health issues is nothing to do with wealth , status , birth right is showing a total lack of understanding and I do wonder at their 'true' reason for making it about wealth, status, birth right to be honest.

Jalima1108 Mon 24-Apr-17 11:36:07

Thanks Elegran

Like the Royal Family or not, they do bring people's notice to worthwhile causes.

Leading on from that, in the days when Prince Philip was a child and young man (and for many years) a light was not shone on to this area and his mother's situation would have been a cause of shame and something definitely not to be discussed, especially in public.

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 11:33:13

Great ? perspective POGS, agree well done to all doing something positive X

POGS Mon 24-Apr-17 11:26:51

Well done all the runners supporting ' HEADS TOGETHER ' yesterday at the London Marathon

Well done to William, Kate and Harry for engaging in the London Marathon to support ' HEADS TOGETHER '.

Well done to ALL those who took part for their chosen charities too.

Elegran Mon 24-Apr-17 11:20:13

Diss am a mean way to speak ob your brudders an sisters, Jalima, when you tinks dey is STOOPID and talkin' garbidge!

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 11:19:13

Sorry I was being lazy , disrespecting

Jalima1108 Mon 24-Apr-17 10:55:39

diss?

what is diss?

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 10:53:36

Get over yourself - is usually said when one person things they have better in sight than someone else i.e. They are wealthy so they don't suffer the same . A very unfair assumption imo

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 10:50:10

Anniebach. Possibly because of my wording you don't seem to have understood the point I was trying to make, we all express ourselves differently & therefore it is sometimes open to interpretation . I was just trying to point out that being 'privaliged ' does not mean you don't suffer the same pain as someone who is not & that it seems unfair to diss someone from speaking out about grief just because they are better of financially , my understanding of pain & grief is that no amount of wealth can cure it .

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 10:46:38

I think it a deeply offensive comment,

Jalima1108 Mon 24-Apr-17 10:40:38

I have wondered often what 'get over yourself' means.

Apparently it is in the Urban Dictionary [que?] and is a: 'Patronising phrase used to tell someone that you believe they hold too high an opinion of themselves, or are behaving in a conceited or pompous manner.'

So is patronising.
And quite meaningless in this context.

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 10:36:31

Then you need to get over yourself norose because you are judging posters , you haven't the foggiest of the experiences of those you judge

Why is it acceptable to critcise Phillip but not Harry?

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 10:01:44

Yes indeed you have a point we could all be deemed to be being 'self righteous 'but that is not the same as judging people to be more or less worthy of empathy or admiration or what ever label just because of their status or wealth !!! Or lack of !!

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 09:47:54

So those who have different opinions to you norose are self righteous and need to get over themselves ?

norose4 Mon 24-Apr-17 09:43:48

B- H--l Do we now have the sympathy police where one is only allowed to express sympathy to some people but not others! what is wrong with you people . We are all humans ??? well supposedly & all have our crosses to bear no one can ever know what someone else goes through & we have no right to judge others once again 'walk a mile in my shoes' & particularly why criticise anyone who can use his position to possibly help others to speak out , get over your self righteous selves ?

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 09:05:18

For any child to lose both parents, spend their school years in boarding schools and school holidays in other people's homes, cut off from siblings, to be compared with a child who had a loving father, a very large , close extended family, a home , in fact all his grandfather didn't have ,

Yet Harry gets the sympathy and his grandfather the critcism

Penstemmon Mon 24-Apr-17 08:50:11

I was actually being surprisingly empathetic to Philipshock I do think he is probably not a person I would warm to but can see his priveledged, but not without emotional stress, life would make it more difficult to articulate any mental illness concerns. Possibly why he appears uso 'no nonsense' about others.

Methinks the prince protests too much etc..

daphnedill Mon 24-Apr-17 08:35:28

Well, that's telling him! hmm

Anniebach Mon 24-Apr-17 08:32:59

So now you know how his grandparents have been no help, have no understanding of him?

This has become Saint Diana and the wicked windsors again, no different,

How unkind you are about his grandfather, Harry has been spoilt and pampered , his grandfather didn't have parents or a country.

Penstemmon Mon 24-Apr-17 08:25:12

Except the old fart probably has his own "black dog" to deal with and is too steeped in his sense of importance /can't let the firm down attitude to be open about it or empathise with others.

Jalima1108 Sun 23-Apr-17 22:53:38

so therefore you would think he would have some sympathy and understanding

Jalima1108 Sun 23-Apr-17 22:52:52

He did have a pretty tough life himself as a child.