Not an election please

as someone said to me not that long ago 'You are just a young thing'. I am 71!

I thought that the Unions were falling out of love with Corbyn; however, now that Coyne has been suspended perhaps the affair will continue.
So - is that because of dirty tricks, genuine or are the Russians involved?

Seems he was just ahead of McClusky when the count was underway, the result will be know tomorrow but not made public untill 28th. It is rumoured he worked too close with certain labour MP's

If the far left are involved is there any difference Jalima,

Don't forget to search under your bed tonight just in case there are any Reds there!

They would be a bit squashed under mine, it has drawers underneath crammed full of spare bedding

I was alluding to the American election trisher

The link I put forward has various other reports of the Coyne/McCluskey/Labour MP's within it's content.

It's interesting reading if you read those reports as well as the main story.

McCluskey is a powerful man.

They have no need to hide Trisher, they sell their newspaper at Momentum exhibitions , daylight not in the dark , they are more open now for some reason

I've read that Coyne hasn't been expelled from Unite. Can anybody confirm that?

I thought he had just been suspended from his post as a union official pending an investigation. Looks more than a little suspicious?

daphnedil

He is 'suspended' ,not expelled.

But just suspended from his job I think, not from the union. No idea what this means if he wins the election. Presumably he won't be able to take up the leadership unless the investigation exonerates him?

I know he's suspended from his job, but is he suspended from the party? My question was if he's expelled from Unite. If he's not expelled or even suspended from the union, there is no reason he shouldn't win, if he's received more votes.

I just wanted clarification.

The rumour seems to be that any delay, if has won, will also delay any change in the Unite reps on the NEC.

History has a habit of repeating itself (almost the same date too)...

*Cromwell's Whoremasters Speech to Parliament
General Cromwell's Dissolution of the Long Parliament 1653:*

"It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches...

In the name of God, go!”

Lt General Oliver Cromwell - April 20, 1653

Ooops! I meant Is he suspended from the union? (not party)

" An email sent by union official Des Quinn to members in the West Midlands confirmed Coyne’s suspension. It said: “This is to advise that Gerard Coyne has been suspended from his duties as regional secretary pending an investigation into certain issues which have arisen.

“The investigation is, of course, being conducted under procedure, and it should not be assumed that any offence has necessarily been committed. You will appreciate that it is not possible to comment further on this matter.”

Coyne’s spokesman declined to outline the charges against him. But the West Bromwich official has been criticised by McCluskey for being too close to a “cabal” of West Midlands MPs including Tom Watson. He has been suspended from his role as regional secretary, but remains a union member and so could, in theory, take up the role as general secretary if he wins."

" This is not the first time that Coyne has been disciplined by the union after letting it be known that he was considering standing for the leadership.

Last year, he was given a final written warning for speaking at an event held by Labour for the Common Good, a group founded by Chuka Umunna and Tristram Hunt, two MPs who declined to join Corbyn’s shadow cabinet.

On 7 March, two months after the event and following a disciplinary hearing, McCluskey wrote a letter marked “strictly confidential” saying he had found that Coyne was guilty of a breach of trust and was giving him a final written warning that would sit on his record for 12 months.

In the letter, headed “A serious breach of trust”, McCluskey said Labour for the Common Good was a legitimate organisation, but added: “Given that it is the brainchild of Chuka Umunna and Tristram Hunt who chose not to serve in a Corbyn shadow cabinet, it is clear that there are obvious differences with Unite’s political vision.”

Unite declined to comment upon Coyne’s suspension.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/20/unite-union-gerard-coyne-suspended-west-midlands-len-mccluskey-uk

McCluskey is a powerful man.

Strange that Jack Dromey is accuse of being involved, he is on Corbyns hit list

10 labour MP's have now stood down

Not really

Jack Dromey gave his backing to Gerard Coyne for the Unite Leadership.

" For Len, power is about control of the union and control of the Labour Party. Control for his vision of a pure socialist party, regardless of whether or not it can ever win a General Election again."

" I believe in strong leadership, but not one that abuses power as he did when he tried to sack Gerard Coyne last year for “gross misconduct”.

" Gross misconduct”? Gerard’s sin was to make a spellbinding presentation to 40 Labour MPs from across the political spectrum in the House of Commons on why Trade Unions matter. "

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/news-opinion/jack-dromey-im-backing-gerard-12822910

And Jock Dromey is married to Harriet Harman who is also on the hit list .

Thank you for the link POGS

Yes, I read that POGS. The question was whether he's been suspended from the union. It would appear not, so if he has won the ballot, I assume there's no reason why he can't be leader.

Just read that more people think the moon landings were faked than think Labour will win!

I was interested to hear Grant Shapps and Liam Byrne discussing tax this morning (Today). Liam Byrne was saying what I have been thinking and saying for some years - that we need to tax wealth at the same level as income rather than trying to tax lower levels of income.

I know/think this is not standard LP thinking and it certainly isn't Conservative thinking but does anyone know what the Lib Dem thinking is? I imagine they will want to continue taking the lowest incomes out of basic tax as they started within the Coalition but have they said anything else?

If Labour loses Corbyn will not stand down

Am I wrong in thinking that the only thing Theresa reminds me of in speaking of her party needing to keep power "in the National interest" is the words of Adolf Hitler
"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life." (Hitler)
Scarey!!!

GG I think John O'Donnell is in favour of a wealth tax so it might work its way into the Labour manifesto. I've not seen anything on this from the LDs. I was interested in what you say about the level of wealth taxation. Are you saying that people should be taxed at up to 45% of their total wealth every year??