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Should you vote Liberal?

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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 12:37:01

Here we go then. I am going to outline all the information I can get hold of without the flim flam and criticism of other parties.

Other folks are more than welcome to join in - but I would ask you keep it as objective as possible without the temptation of trashing the opposition. We can do that on other threads. I always bite off more than I can chew so will appreciate help -cheers!!

This stuff has been kindly donated by another gran whose name escapes me at the moment but I will add it later.

The following can be described as a statement of intent - it isn't the manifesto, so it can be compared to the manifesto when it gets published

Economy/Business
We intend to achieve a growing stable economy

1. Ensure regional growth
2. Embrace new technology
3. Belief in globalisation
4. Live within our means
5. Sensible deficit reduction - but also productive investment in infrastructure, skills and training.
6.Fair corporate tax code - multi-nationals must pay their fair share
7. Help entrepreneurs and small business

Health
We believe in the National Health free at the point of use

1 Additional investment as a matter of urgency
2 we have called for a cross Party commission to look how we can deliver sustainable development for health care in the longer term
3 Belief in healthcare for all both physical and mental health
When in government we ensured additional investment plus the first ever treatment waiting standard for mental health
4. Support to introduce a regulated cannabis market.

durhamjen Fri 28-Apr-17 12:38:58

Here's an interesting list, for those who want a Libdem resurgence.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/04/election-2017-30-mps-risk-lib-dem-surge

I think Stanley changed his mind about the Tories because of environmental concerns.

M0nica Fri 28-Apr-17 15:47:39

and now we hear that if the Conservatives win the election, Teresa May may well take the opportunity to boot Boris out of the Cabinet.

Jalima1108 Fri 28-Apr-17 18:11:53

Well, Stanley must have changed then
He is a former Conservative member of the European Parliament (MEP)
and stood for Parliament as a Tory in 2005:
The Liberal Democrat MP in Teignbridge, Richard Younger-Ross, was defending a 3,000 majority against the Tory candidate Stanley Johnson, father of the Tory MP Boris Johnson.

Jalima1108 Fri 28-Apr-17 18:15:29

Rachel Johnson Joins Lib Dems In Extraordinary Rebuff To Brother Boris Over Brexit
(Huff Post)

Is she not allowed to make up her own mind?
Why is it rebuffing her brother?
She said at the time of the referendum that the family were pro-Remain and that she spent a weekend with Boris as he agonised over his decision.
Are family members not allowed to think differently and respect each other's views?

The press publishes a load of twaddle.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 28-Apr-17 18:15:32

Interesting to hear Vince Cables view on the Economy.

Anniebach Fri 28-Apr-17 18:33:03

It is possible to support a different party from friends, family , aquatances, without sharpening claws

GracesGranMK2 Fri 28-Apr-17 19:04:50

Vince Cable predicts second economic storm

As this article starts:
Remember back in 2003, when Vince Cable was saying that at some point the economy would collapse because of the amount of consumer credit? Well, he was right then and he’s now saying that we could be up for another Brexit fuelled crash.
you may find it worth a read.

durhamjen Fri 28-Apr-17 19:05:32

Zac Golsmith is standing in his old seat!
Good reason to vote liberal in that constituency.

grumppa Fri 28-Apr-17 20:12:28

The other two threads are Should I ..... This one is Should You..... Any particular reason, whitewave?

Jalima1108 Fri 28-Apr-17 20:15:40

It is possible to support a different party from friends, family, aquatances, without sharpening claws
grin DH and I could come to blows (metaphorically speaking of course) and DB is on the other end of a phone.

durhamjen Fri 28-Apr-17 20:18:56

Grumppa, I think she would have got stick if she had said "should one....?"

Ana Fri 28-Apr-17 20:22:14

That wasn't the question. Why aren't all three threads either 'should I' or should you'?

Although whitewave doesn't appear to be here at the moment.

durhamjen Fri 28-Apr-17 20:54:55

I know that, Ana. Just trying to inject a bit of humour.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 30-Apr-17 13:21:43

I imagine Grumppa, although I don't know, that having started the others and found the information we have so far on what the parties are offering for us she just did it differently without thinking. Does it really matter?

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 13:40:16

Except that this one appears to be the first thread she started. Probably forgot...

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 13:45:29

Yes, I imagine so Ana but ww is off on her hols now so we may never know.grin

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 13:50:23

Don't actually care...grin

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 14:46:00

I'll await the manifesto .....

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 15:00:34

Go on then, off you go.....

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 15:03:57

And you - don't see you posting much on this thread durhamjen...

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 18:05:50

Gracesgran, I think Richard Murphy has also predicted what Vince Cable did.
I do hope they are not right, but fear they might be.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 30-Apr-17 18:16:45

I agree that if we continue down the route set out for us it may well happen Jen.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 30-Apr-17 18:21:35

Just talking at home Jen, about our young people thinking they will have to leave the country to get a job, the unnecessary deaths in Care that are already happening and how I would be able to pay for my medical care when the day comes. Rather depressing if it wasn't for my family being with me.

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 18:25:14

None of my (our) young people think they'll have to leave the country to get a job. Are your young people somehow different or more 'qualified'?

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 18:48:24

Fortunately for them, Gracesgran, my children and grandchildren are quite cosmopolitan anyway, so not worried about whether they would have to go abroad.
My eldest son was made redundant last year, so he can go and teach in Europe when his wife gets treated the same way.
In fact if they all go ahead with their plans, I might end up having to get a passport again, having been without one for over ten years.
Got to look at things positively.