Should I vote Labour

I wonder if GN has been infiltrated by Momentum activists ?

What makes you ask that AB?

No where? I thought so. Just the usual name calling of those who do not agree with you.

That's the get out clause is it - I didn't write it so it's not directed at anyone here. Well, bags herself DID direct it at people on Gransnet:

"Found a nice, accurate, and beautifully piss-taking description of what happens on GN political threads...... [insults follow] ..... of a very few posters ..."

If you genuinely interpret the comment from Thatbags as evidence that -
a) she is therefore a Tory supporter
and b) she could not manage to write a brilliant article in response to the "challenge" -(purely as an exercise in rhetoric, whether or not she believed a word of what she wrote)

- then you are proving true what she has quoted.

And hinting piss-takingly at the possible " "suffocating 'tolerance', stifling certitude, implacable self-righteousness, totalitarian 'liberality', and mimsy authoritarianism" of "a very few posters" comes somewhere second to what is frequently heard from those left-wing extremists who condemn as evil "anyone who disagrees with them in a the smallest degree, as right-wing, unreasonable and ignorant." That venom embraces the whole of the GN members and the electorate who vote differently, not just "a few" bitter posters

This is why you should vote Labour.

anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/how-many-of-jeremy-corbyns-policies-do.html

You can (will) call it insults whatever I say, eloethan, so I'll agree with you. It's an insult, several insults even, directed at some prevalent attitudes on some GN threads. If attitudes are people then the quote is insulting to people who hold and display those attitudes.

I make no apology for being insulting about attitudes that I find reprehensible. I make no apology for repeating insulting phrases about attitudes and, if you like, the people who show such attitudes anywhere, not just on GN. If someone can tell me a better way to get across my disgust at such attitudes, a non-insulting way, then I'm all ears to learn. Fire away.

But I still think such crap attitudes need to be insulted. This is the right use of what some people choose to call insulting language as far as I'm concerned.

Just for info, it was a lifelong Labour voter (but not someone I know personally) who wrote it.

Being able to insult what one finds disgusting is what free speech is for.

Reasons to vote Labour and why you will not read them in the Times.

anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/theresa-may-and-british-propaganda.html

I think I have read enough from 'another angry voice' if the list that GGM2 put on this thread ( or the Conservative thread?) is anything to go on.

So obvious - older voters are voting Tory, young voters are voting Labour

Older voters have the knowledge of the danger of communism , young voters have no idea,

Thank you, dj, very sweet of you because I don't read anything but the Times, do I?

Angry voice, Budgie, voxpox , they just keep coming and it take so much more time to wizz past them to find a post with the opinions of a GN member

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If you genuinely interpret the comment from Thatbags as evidence that -
a) she is therefore a Tory supporter
and b) she could not manage to write a brilliant article in response to the "challenge" -(purely as an exercise in rhetoric, whether or not she believed a word of what she wrote)
- then you are proving true what she has quoted.

Thatbags was certainly not identified specifically; the challange was general. No one was asked to write a 'brilliant article' Elegran - where did that come from. I think our eight year old could write to say why her swimming club is a good thing without denigrating the (say) netball club and the
players in the netball club. Although, like the number of Tory party supporters on here perhaps they are finding it is difficult to say anything good when there is nothing good to say - or at least they haven't yet told us what that is.

I watched May on Andrew Marr, and I think she might have lost a few thousand votes to Labour, when he was asking her what about nurses who have to go to food banks at the end of the week. She had no answer to that other than get out of welfare by working more.

I thought that was possibly the most ridiculous thing that Marr has ever said.
Nurses going to food banks! Since we have a nurse in the family I know how well they are paid. There may be some nurses ( as well as those doing other jobs) using a food bank because they have got themselves into massive retail credit debt/other circumstances etc but it is not the norm.People doing lower paid jobs such as cleaning or shop work were not mentioned as needing food banks.....why not?TMay should have pulled him up on that one, but no doubt preferred to look into it herself later.Anybody can find themselves for all sorts of reasons being hard up and living on beans and toast ( have done it myself in the past) but unless you can produce figures ( high ones) that nurses can't afford to eat through no fault of their own then it's pretty unbelievable.
So, are these nurses from EU countries or other poor countries, are they sending most of their salary back home etc etc.

I do not believe nurses use food banks because their wages are too low, what rubbish.

GGM2 asking posters to produce their essay or they will be caned is tantamount to your 'challenges' so don't be surprised that nobody will oblige you.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-a-nurse-i-see-my-colleagues-go-to-food-banks-because-of-low-pay-without-corbyns-nhs-policies-our-a7209196.html

Just a bit of research, roses.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2058212/nhs-nurses-forced-to-go-to-food-banks-and-take-out-payday-loans-to-make-ends-meet/

Annie, how you have changed. So sad. You should be up in arms at the idea of nurses going to food banks.

Elegran thatbags didn't write it - she said she found it. (As a matter of interest, thatbags, who wrote the string of insults you copied and where did you find it?).

Jen, I do not believe nurses go to food banks because they cannot afford to buy food. Qualified nurses salaries start at £21,600 pa,

Vote Labour to save the NHS.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-practice/practice-topics/education/60-of-gp-training-places-remain-unfilled-in-areas-of-england/20034336.article

There's a list at the bottom of the article showing where the vacancies are. 61% of GP training places still avaiable across the North East.
There is a fund to bring in GPs from EU countries like Lithuania, Bulgaria and Poland.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-practice/practice-topics/education/nhs-looks-to-poland-spain-and-romania-to-find-new-gps/20032020.fullarticle