Should I vote Labour

I reckon that her and Philip have a very lively life they would go quite well with a whip.

Does anybody have an opinion on Theresa May's leather trousers?

Never mind nig we are leaving that should cheer you up. Just pray for a good deal.

What I mourn is what the Common Market that we overwhelmingly voted for with such enthusiasm, has now become. It was with a lot of heartsearching, and deep regret that I voted to leave. It's not what I voted for, or would have voted for then, so why would I vote for it now?!

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No

anniebach Are you now likening Corbyn to a thief?

I doubt it will make a difference, no one seems to care about the damage caused by the militants in the 1970's and 1980's, there is no problem with Corbyn being supported by the communist party now.

Corbyn's very close friend George Galloway could be dangerous , his praise for Corbyn would certaintly help turn away centre , centre left and floaters, and it would strengthen the far left.

First time I have heard the very wealthy Hatton speak the truth

however, that could have the opposite effect anniebach and make people think Corbyn is not so bad after all

Good grief, Derek Hatton, who always said he was a trot and who Corbyn campaigned to get back into the party after he had been expelled has said -

Corbyn has shown a real lack of leadership and makes me have serious doubts about him.

Honour among thieves !

nig if May was intent on involving Parliament throughout the negotiations and there was a policy of cross Party cooperation, and the recognition that we are facing the biggest problem in living memory (bar war) then I would feel very optimistic that we could arrange a deal that keeps us secure in all ways, and we could face the future with vigour. However, I would hope and pray that this can't be achieved we are mature enough to say "big error" on our part. We've changed our minds.

i am a remainer so to an extent I will for ever mourn what has happened, but I am also an opitimist by nature so I do believe anything is possible with the right people in charge.

Perhaps it will, nigglynellie but in the meantime it could try to ensure that respecting the referendum result doesn't mean hurtling the UK off a cliff.
Keeping on regardless of obvious disaster is what would make politicians look untrustworthy and despicable.

Well, perhaps in future Parliament will be more careful what they unanimously agree on! It certainly was a cavalier approach on all sides presumably because they ALL assumed the deal was in the bag - and, like all these things, it wasn't and never is until the result is called!

nig what cin seems to be talking about and giving consideration to is once the negotiation is completed and it is clear that to accept the offer or the alternative would be to crash out. If the impact assessments which will be made in all areas, make it clear that either course would be utterly disastrous to our life in the U.K. Should we then reconsider our position in order to conserve life and their standard of living for our grandchildren or should we pig headidly regardless of what happens leave.

In my opinion that is no way to run a country and would be utterly irresponsible.

ww, Cindersdad seemed to be suggesting that we might, but perhaps I misunderstood the final paragraph of that post.

nig Brexit IS being honoured - we voted to leave.

Did we vote HOW we leave though - No

Did we vote what a post UK Brexit will look like - No

That's what we should all -regardless of how we voted- should be concerned about.

A small coterie of a few ministers, cannot possibly be responsible for for whole of the UKs future. We aren't talking a budget here or decisions about our housing policy. It is a massive decision, and one that can only be taken with entire parliamentary approval.

If you are a democrat you would support that without fail.

Nicely argued Mother Hubbard, Cindersdad and Daphne. Of course we, or at least Parliament, needs to decided on the final outcome of any talks. Why do people want others to dominate the decisions that will affect their lives? Why do politicians (some) think that 'strong' leaders are those that will brook no opposition whatsoever?

All referendums in the UK are only advisory including the one to go into the EU (Common Market) in the first place. The reason we can't and won't have another referendum is that David Cameron, with the full backing of Parliament stated quite clearly that the referendum would be honoured whatever the result. Ok the Parliament could go back on that promise, but to do that would make it and all its members totally untrustworthy and more despised than they already are.

www.verdict.co.uk/these-are-the-ceos-who-wanted-to-remain-in-the-eu/

www.verdict.co.uk/these-ceos-supported-the-leave-campagin/

Above are a few of them. I remember noting at the time that most of the CEOs who wanted to leave were involved in insurance, hedge funds or similar financial businesses, whereas the majority of CEOs involved in high tech or science wanted to remain.

Jalima I think you'll find they were split, but I don't know how many were in each camp.

Exactly Motherhubbard - all many of the Leave voters saw was immigration and kicking the Tory government. As a Remain voter I admit that I didn't fully understand all the issues. I simply though that as acountry we had benefited from EU membership. The relative neglect of the North, Wales and other parts away from the South East is down to Westminster. The EU has helped the more deprived areas. The cost of leaving and the ongoing increase in prices has yet to be realised. For that reason voting against Brexiteers from whatever party may help. That is why Parliament or even a second referendum must allow Brexit to be cancelled if it means economic suicide. The vote on 23/6/16 was opinion at the time and opinions can change.

MotherHubbard try saying that to the many top leaders of industry who, so I was very reliably informed by one of them who discussed it with fellow chief execs at a top-level meeting, voted Brexit.

MotherHubbard

Obviously you don't know those who read the Sun, Express, Daily Mail , voted Leave are NEVER belittled by Remainerson GN.

Well at least that's what they keep saying, it's not true of course .

Varian 'I wonder how many leave voters even knew the difference between membership of the EU and the Customs Union? Was it explained in the Daily Mail, Express or Sun??'

Exactly Fitzy