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Teetime Wed 26-Apr-17 16:50:07

I have voted Labour all my adult life but feel I cannot support Mr Corbyn so I wont be voting Labour. I will not vote Conservative and am then left in a quandary. I am seriously considering voting for the Green Party their ideals seem to match with mind other than over Brexit as I am a 'Leave' but that is not as they say a deal breaker for me.
Anyone like to say anything for or against the Greens to help me make up my mind. All comments welcome (silly or malicious ones will be not be responded to). Thank you.

M0nica Sat 29-Apr-17 11:52:37

Is that why the economy was in such a mess in 2010, with a huge debt because Gordon Brown took a gamble on the economic cycle and ran up debt hoping to pay it off when the economy picked up, when, oopsie there was an international financial crisis.

Remember the Secretary for the Treasury's (I have forgotten his name) note to his successor, something to the effect; Sorry, the money has all gone.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 11:58:08

I've just done an ONS survey on income distribution.
According to them I have £5000 more disposable income than I get each year.
Not sure I'll believe the ONS statistics again.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 12:24:28

www.thecanary.co/2017/04/27/new-green-party-alliance-become-theresa-mays-worst-nightmare/

Teetime Sun 30-Apr-17 09:23:14

Well I went to listen to the Green candidate locally yesterday and I joined up. Not because of what he said bless him he was as green as his party but a very well intentioned young man but because I want a whole new perspective on politics having as I said voted Labour all my adult life. The 'debates' on Granset which I read thoroughly but chose to rarely join in as they felt quite toxic at times did nothing to enthuse me to any of the main parties. I was looking for something fresh and what I heard yesterday just that.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 10:16:41

Well done, Teetime.
Haven't heard anything about a Green Party candidate round here, either local or national.
However the Tories have just sold off the Green Investment Bank.

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 10:20:02

Teetime you say 'he was as green as his Party' shock that's the problem with the Greens, what on earth can they do for the UK......nothing.
Talking of rainbows and unicorns in everybody's garden will not run an economy.

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 10:22:47

Still, it's your thread and your vote, but think it was a mistake to rely on GN and it's 'debates' to influence you.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 10:23:20

Roses, you really should keep off a thread if that's all you can say.
Nothing wrong with being idealistic. All politicians were 'green' at one time.

I have never heard anyone in the Green Party talking about rainbows and unicorns.
How many Green Party meetings have you been to?

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 10:51:49

dj do stop keeping on telling people to keep off threads, it has become something of a mantra with you lately.
We can all cast our vote wherever we like, but not at all sure that taking advice from a forum on how to vote is a good idea.
At least teetime made her mind up at an actual meeting.
Nothing wrong in being idealistic either but the present GE is a two horse race , and a lot is riding on the outcome.

MaizieD Sun 30-Apr-17 11:03:24

I didn't see anything in Teetime's post that said she'd come to Gransnet to be influenced in how to vote. She was just reporting on her view of the Greens as informed by the meeting she went to.

I can't make up my mind whether I'm just failing to understand the English language or whether posters who claim that people are trying to browbeat influence other posters into voting a particular way are reading much more into posts than was intended by the original poster..

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 11:12:27

Anybody who is truly undecided would be better off studying the many sources of information out there ( not a forum) about all the political parties.All but the undecided on here are biased one way or another.Simple as that.
Now that teetime is no longer undecided this thread is probably done.grin

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:14:09

Although can I just say that I will await the manifesto

grin

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:15:28

but before I go:
For the Greens: Natalie Bennett is no longer leader

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 15:22:10

Off you go, then, Jalima.
By the way, who said Natalie Bennett was the leader?
Before you go...

MawBroon Sun 30-Apr-17 15:22:36

I like this grin

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:30:53

Natalie Bennett. Natalie Louise Bennett (born 10 February 1966) is a British politician and journalist who led the Green Party of England and Wales from September 2012 to September 2016.

confused Well, I knew and I thought you were a member of the Green Party djen, how come it slipped past you?

For the Greens: Natalie Bennett is no longer leader

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:31:53

MawBroon
none of the above

The Monster Raving Loony Party it is then grin

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:34:27

what was Lord Melbourne?

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 15:35:19

A: A Whig

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 15:36:09

I know she's no longer the leader. It's a joint leadership between Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley.
You still haven't said why you said it in the first place.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 15:37:43

Actually Natalie is standing in Sheffield Central. I don't think she will win, but I'd be surprised if anyone else did other than the Labour MP.

Fitzy54 Sun 30-Apr-17 19:22:43

My take on the Greens is that they would much better serve their constituency as a pressure group within Labour, encouraging the ecological agenda within that party rather than splitting the left wing vote. They could then concentrate on the ecological issues, which is what they are really about, and would have some hope of real influence within a party in power. All this without too much compromise in terms of the other policies they espouse.

M0nica Sun 30-Apr-17 20:17:48

Fitzy54, I have been coming to the conclusion that one can have more clout on environmental issues by belonging to an appropriate pressure group/s than belonging to, or voting for the Green Party.

Many causes they espouse have individual supporters in all political parties and it is more effective to get the green issues across through

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 20:19:18

You still haven't said why you said it in the first place.
It could be a reason to take another look at them of course.

M0nica Sun 30-Apr-17 20:20:36

Oh, what happened there? to continue
.... cross party groups known as All-Party Parliamentary Groups than through a solitary Green MP representing everything.