The Green Party

I keep joining up to those courses then never have time to finish them - I don't know what I do with my life!!! I need to be more disciplined.

My understanding (though could be wrong) is that the Greens are less enthusiastic about a Citizen's Income, because the financial modelling showed that providing a meaningful living wage would be prohibitively expensive.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by your last paragraph POGS. It's easy to "hand out money" without economic growth by devaluing the value of the pound.

Most economists believe the current rate of UK growth is distorted because it's reported in sterling, which is worth far less than it was before the referendum. If it were to be reported in dollars or euros, the UK would have have negative growth.

I think from the way I understand our current methods of food production is in itself busy destroying the environment and the ecology and adding to the levels of poverty and starvation.

I did a course on Global Food Security on Futurelearn,which was very interesting and quite frightening.

It looks as though they're intending to run it again,but haven't announced the date.

www.futurelearn.com/courses/food-security

All grist to the mill maize

Ah, ww got there before me and is much better informed!

I imagine the 'negative growth' model could be likened to a hot water radiator system; the same water continually circulates the system, likewise the same money/resources (?) would circulate, being replaced when worn out, not added to.

This, of course, depends on no-one withholding money/resources from the system by hoarding or off-shoring.

This is also only my personal interpretation of the concept, based on no research whatsoever

The Citizen's or Basic income has been discussed on here before. I think it's a perfectly reasonable concept.

pogs My nephew has a masters in sustainable growth and food security. I have had a few chats with him and understand it to a minimal level. It is a recognised branch of economics and as I said food security, and I suspect will be something that the world will be forced to turn to as the climate change makes food sustainability much more difficult. As the world population increases resources which are not finite will also be subject to this sustainability theory.

Do not make the mistake of scoffing at this theory. Our grandchildren will need it in future.

I am look at the Green Policies .

Ecological sustainability

EC201 To this end, the Citizens' Income (see EC730) will allow the current dependence on economic growth to cease, and allow zero or negative growth to be feasible without individual hardship should this be necessary on the grounds of sustainability. (see PB104-106)
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I understand the Green Party want to give everybody a Citizens Income.

What does it mean by saying 'the current dependence on economic growth to cease, and allow zero or negative growth '

How can you hand out money without economic growth and want zero or negative growth.? Somebody who is a Green please help me out.

Lets be clear their is no contest here it will be Alan Duncan by a landslide. This is the Tory heartland. I wouldn't now vote LibDem after the debacle of the Coalition - I don't think they have got their house in order at all.Interesting though isn't it how differently we perceive things. I thought TB was a very good PM.
I am going to the Green Party meeting on Saturday morning to hear the pitches from their potential candidates and will report back.

I agree with you, Anya, about the election broadcast. Best one I've seen for a long time.

Greens only got 4.3% at the last election. Libdem lost 17% because of their coalition, but UKIP gained most of it.
I assume this time that Libdems will gain a lot of the remain vote.
Voting Labour will probably not get rid of Alan Duncan, but will give him a smaller majority.
You need to decide whether it's worth voting Green or not. I voted Green when I couldn't bring myself to vote for Blair's Labour party, which seemed a long way from what I thought a socialist party should be.

Please do not vote Green unless you want to see the destruction of the United Kingdom. They support the SNP's separatist agenda. Scottish voters will I'm sure be very wary of the Greens from now on.

Having said that I would probably vote for Caroline Lucas in Brighton as I do agree with most of what she says, and she is far better than a Tory in that seat.

In your constituency, it is not yet sure wqhether Libdem or Labour is most likely to take the seat from Alan Duncan.

I do hope you mean that, roses.

Also ww please do not make teetime's thread
A battle.I have said my comment you have said yours and that should be it.

I don't feel it's up to me, but rather you ww and teetime who are considering them, therefore you must do your homework on them.Also, I don't think that teetime should accept at face value anything said on GN about the policies of the Greens as all sorts of things are bandied about on forums, and far better to go to more reliable sources.All I will say is that they said some quite strange things at the last election and the fact that hardly anyone votes for them says it all.

Pity you can't back up what you are saying though. It is so easy to throw these things into the circle without explaining what you mean

I suggest you do some reading on them ww very few voters take them seriously,
As voting percentages show.

What oddball ideas are they then rose?

.....and in some areas Teetime you could put a red rosette on donkey etc etc.
The Greens have some oddball ideas so look at them very carefully before you vote for them.Why not vote Lib Dem or Independent?

Great Party Politcal Election Broadcast though, best one I've seen in a long time.