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Diane Abbott

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MawBroon Wed 03-May-17 09:51:52

Did anybody feel sorry for her yesterday? Or embarrassed? Or, like me, annoyed that she was so ill prepared and frankly incompetent.
She "misspoke" apparently. hmm
She only had one job to do.
And before anybody says the poor dear had to give eleventy billion seven interviews -she is a professional politician it's what she does.
What compounded it was her tone of voice -like a primary teacher talking to a very stupid child, trying not to lose her patience but clearly just about to. Especially as she was talking such nonsense.
With talent such as Yvette Cooper, Chuka Umunna, Michael Dughan and others (even Ed Balls!) to call on why does the Labour campaign wheel on choose someone like Diane Abbott to score an own goal?

nigglynellie Sat 06-May-17 10:50:09

Perhaps she's not very well, in which case she'd do better to stand down.

Anniebach Sat 06-May-17 10:58:58

I wondered about her health Niggly whilst listening to her interview.

trisher Sat 06-May-17 11:00:21

Oh come on it's obvious that she was trying to improve the figures and hoping the last results to come in had gone to Labour. So she said 50. The interviewer who had more up to date info knew it was 125. The last time she had looked it had been 100. Obviously she was wrong but can't be thought inadequate because she was optimistic. As for the 125 she would have been incommunicado whilst they set her up for interviewing, the interviewer obviously wasn't.

POGS Sat 06-May-17 11:05:09

Interesting link MB

" Answering questions about Labour’s net losses in the local elections, shadow home secretary estimates that the number of seats lost by her party is ‘about 50’, but is told by the interviewer that the figure actually stands at about 125. Abbott then pauses and alters her answer, saying: ‘Well, the last time I looked we had net losses of 100 but obviously this is a moving picture.’"

confused

POGS Sat 06-May-17 11:32:52

trisher

" Oh come on it's obvious that she was trying to improve the figures and hoping the last results to come in had gone to Labour. So she said 50. "

You mean she made figures up!

So you answer a current question by stating a figure of 50 but within a nanno second you admit you know you were trying it on and admit you knew it was 100.

Your argument that Abbott was somehow making a comment of where Labour would be by the time all of the results were presumably in, in other words a guesstimate was not the question asked .

Anybody who has watched Dianne Abbott over the years is fully aware she often appears to make things up on the hoof. The election , her Shadow Cabinet position , the fact she is a high profile spokesperson for Labour will by it's nature mean she is in the public eye.

There is no hiding place and to be honest when the public can 'Hear from the horses mouth' they are perfectly capable of seeing and hearing somebody out of their depth, not on top of their brief.

MawBroon Sat 06-May-17 11:51:26

Exactly - if she was aware of 100, why on earth did she say 50 ? Or was she hoping things might have picked up?

trisher Sat 06-May-17 12:50:18

Of course she was MawBroon. There were probably results to come in that. were forecast as Labour but were lost. She was asked how many seats Labour had lost and gave an answer based on that. And of course it was a guess.
The interviewer would well have known she wouldn't know.
It takes ages to set up a formal interview, she would have had make-up and lights tests. The interviewer of course gets his first and then uses his phone to find out what she couldn't possibly know.
She should have told him that.

rosesarered Sat 06-May-17 12:55:29

All these defensive posts about Abbott and her incompetence! grin

MawBroon Sat 06-May-17 13:00:01

Excuses, excuses.

Maybe there is a health issue?
Did she not miss the Brexit vote because she was tired (no, I didn't say "tired and emotional") grin

nigglynellie Sat 06-May-17 13:05:32

I'm only trying to be kind, and you never quite know!

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 14:42:07

I thought she missed the Brexit vote because she was having a migraine. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good put-down, though.

Ana Sat 06-May-17 14:46:22

Was it the truth though? We only have her word for that.

Beammeupscottie Sat 06-May-17 14:50:57

I reckon she is menopausal. Memory loss, getting flustered and bad heads are par for the course. She is probably sweating (aren't all Labour politicians at the moment).

Ana Sat 06-May-17 14:55:31

Blimey, she's 63 - quite late to be menopausal, surely? grin

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 14:56:54

Having employed someone who suffered from migraines, I would never doubt anyone's word on that.

Beammeupscottie Sat 06-May-17 14:58:04

Is she! Must admit I hadn't checked her age. Therefore she has no excuse except she is past it and should retire; as should her ex-boyfriend.

Beammeupscottie Sat 06-May-17 14:59:26

Yes. But a most convenient incapacity in this case.

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 15:18:16

Sorry, but migraines are anything but convenient.

Lona Sat 06-May-17 15:28:29

There is a condition called dyscalculia, which is a kind of numerical dyslexia. Maybe DA suffers from that.
or maybe she's just confused!

Nandalot Sat 06-May-17 15:34:11

She might even have been pre or post migraine. I find myself very muddle headed at these times. I can be thinking one word and another will come out. I even slur my words at times. I am not a particular Diane Abbott fan but can sympathise with her if her gaffes were because of migraines,

Ana Sat 06-May-17 15:34:53

durhamjen you have no idea whether DA suffers from migraines regularly, have you? So your concern may well be misplaced in this instance.

No one's saying that migraines are not incapacitating when they are genuine.

Ana Sat 06-May-17 15:36:11

Oh dear, so the poor woman's a victim now! Perhaps she should retire on health grounds then.

Beammeupscottie Sat 06-May-17 15:37:48

Suffering from fear of visable committment to something she didn't want while not wanting to upset her leader. So you play the sick card.

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 15:53:18

I am prepared to give people who say they have a migraine the benefit of the doubt.
Some people on here are often much more garbled than Abbott ever is. I wonder if they suffer from migraines.
I do not know that, either.

Perhaps all those who would like to be MPs should give their full medical history to the voters, just in case.

I only have Theresa May's word for it that she is type 1 diabetic. I haven't seen her medical records.

norose4 Sat 06-May-17 16:14:18

Mawbroon, yes I did feel all those emotions you mentioned, I did wonder if she was feeling ill.I find her difficult to follow in general , a bit like the presenter who drawls out his words very slowly, I can't remember his name at the moment.