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Diane Abbott

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MawBroon Wed 03-May-17 09:51:52

Did anybody feel sorry for her yesterday? Or embarrassed? Or, like me, annoyed that she was so ill prepared and frankly incompetent.
She "misspoke" apparently. hmm
She only had one job to do.
And before anybody says the poor dear had to give eleventy billion seven interviews -she is a professional politician it's what she does.
What compounded it was her tone of voice -like a primary teacher talking to a very stupid child, trying not to lose her patience but clearly just about to. Especially as she was talking such nonsense.
With talent such as Yvette Cooper, Chuka Umunna, Michael Dughan and others (even Ed Balls!) to call on why does the Labour campaign wheel on choose someone like Diane Abbott to score an own goal?

Anniebach Thu 04-May-17 17:36:22

grin

Jalima1108 Thu 04-May-17 17:41:02

Diane Abbot is not the sharpest knife in the box

Diane Abbott was a clever girl at school and gained a place at Cambridge. Now, I am not a Diane Abbott fan although I must admit occasionally I enjoyed her 'double act' with Michael Portillo on Andrew Neil's sofa!

This is from an article in the Times 2005:
In her final year, the college tutor asked her the standard questions about what career she wanted to pursue. “I said, ‘I want to do good,’” Abbott told the Times. “‘Ah,’ she said. ‘In that case, you should go into the civil service, and since you’re not very good at figures, the Treasury is out. But the next most powerful ministry is the Home Office.”’

So she has proved now that she is not very good at figures hmm but really, she should have got on top of the brief before giving radio interviews.
Was she not well or is she losing her grip? Has she been promoted beyond her capabilities, clever or not?

And yes, she has proved that she hypocritical regarding her son's schooling which makes people wonder what else does she mis-speak about?

durhamjen Thu 04-May-17 22:59:42

Does this make up for Diane Abbott's gaffe?

www.thecanary.co/2017/05/03/tory-mp-slips-live-tv-seeming-clueless-damage-partys-causing-video/

A Tory MP thinks that people with permanent disabilities can get better.
He's on the work and pensions committee.

chattykathy Fri 05-May-17 00:12:18

She said 'thousand' instead of' million '. Granted she became very flustered afterwards and didn't do herself or the Labour party any favours. My point was the media jumped all over it but ignored other gaffes by other people.

Anya Fri 05-May-17 06:57:24

Did anybody watch that programme last night on stress. The presenter was put in a similar situation to DA and completely lost her ability to perform simple mathematical calculations.

Lincsblue Fri 05-May-17 09:10:18

regarding the £350 million on the bus. I thought it was said that it was money that COULD be spent on the NHS, not that it would be.

nigglynellie Fri 05-May-17 09:29:50

It was lincsb, but not many on here will agree!

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 09:36:11

I wonder if she makes the same mistakes with her expenses claims? If so, she could claim to be the most economical MP in the country.

sunseeker Fri 05-May-17 09:44:57

Anya the presenter presumably isn't a professional politician attempting to convince the electorate that her party is capable of running the countries finances.

mostlyharmless Fri 05-May-17 09:53:22

The trouble is that this feeds into the Tory-made myth that Labour can't manage the economy. Every policy that Labour promotes, the media pressurises for exact figures and "where is the money coming from?". They don't do the same with the Conservatives.
And a myth it is.

durhamjen Fri 05-May-17 10:01:03

leftfootforward.org/images/2016/05/rsz_cikhd7axaaiklxc.jpg

Sorry, but the sign said
"Let's fund our NHS instead."
That does not say COULD.

IngeJones Fri 05-May-17 10:17:33

Personally I think she did it deliberately. I think the MPs who stayed on have simply decided to work from the inside to overthrow Corbyn. And they're doing that by making sure they lose the election by a landslide so as to convince him to step down. I think if all the MP's had supported him in the first place, Labour, led by Corbyn, would be enjoying a far greater success.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 10:20:18

why should all those labour MP's lie ?

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 10:25:56

IngeJones I don't think Diane Abott is one who would be working against Corbyn.
Why would decent MPs who care about their constituents and about the Labour party want to lose their seats (not to mention their jobs!)?

And, no, it is not just many MPs, it is the electorate as a whole, many of them lifetime Labour voters.

POGS Fri 05-May-17 10:55:26

Inge Jones

Hells bells if Dianne Abbott ever used that tactic Corbyn would definitely be doomed.

Abbott is like Emily Thornberry , if they were sticks of rock they would we love Jeremy running through.

IngeJones Fri 05-May-17 10:57:37

Jalima, you tell me? Loads of them have done just that - given up their place on the shadow cabinet, left the labour party, given up their seats... Anything rather than simply accept their own rules regarding how the leader is chosen. What about MPs caring about their own party members? I have spotted little of that! Don't forget Diane Abbott herself ran for leadership once, as a person who is obviously more a centerist, seeing as she sent her own kid to private school. It's not like she wanted to be serving a leftie like Corbyn all along.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 11:02:11

Just read a tweet - Corbyn claims labour loses are down to their failure to place Abbott as minister of voting counts

POGS Fri 05-May-17 11:19:00

Dianne Abbott did not make one mistake, say one word incorrectly she gave a totally inept interview and spoke gobbledygook.

She could not state any financial nor numbers of officers figures correctly, she made them up!

She went from the policy of employing 10.000 police officers to 250.000 !!!, then 200 + maybe 50 !!!.

She went from the cost of employing 10.000 police officers from £300 . 000 to £80 Million and carried on drifting.

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 11:26:30

ab

grin

trisher Fri 05-May-17 11:30:04

Theresa May made one mistake in one scripted and practiced speech to a collection of Tory supporters who were hand picked to hear her.
Diane Abbott made some mistakes in an unrehearsed live interview after already done 6.
Forgive me for thinking it's much worse not to be able to remember your lines than to fluff a question
Anyway TM's was a Freudian slip she thinks all foreigners should be treated badly and prevented from staying or entering the UK. She just spoke the truth for once.

Anya Fri 05-May-17 11:51:59

I think you have missed the point sunseeker

grannypiper Fri 05-May-17 15:28:33

I dont suppose she gets her son's school fees wrong.

IngeJones Sat 06-May-17 10:20:38

Trisher, she hadn't already done 6. Apparently that turned out to be untrue.

sunseeker Sat 06-May-17 10:23:10

I gather she "misspoke" again on the number of council seats Labour had lost.

MawBroon Sat 06-May-17 10:24:51

www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/may/05/diane-abbott-underestimates-labour-local-election-losses-video

Not having the best week is Diane Abbott. hmm
But surely even she could have counted up to 6? She made the claim.