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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

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James2451 Sun 07-May-17 13:38:59

‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."

I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.

Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.

No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.

We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 10:48:27

Eastenders are doing a piece about food banks at the moment.

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 10:45:28

Please do not vote for this callous system.

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durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 10:42:40

What it doesn't require is taking food away from children.

Jane10 Sat 20-May-17 10:40:44

I entirely agree that the lack of parental care can be heartbreaking. Countering that requires a multi faceted approach beyond the blunt basics of any party's manifestos sadly.

MaizieD Sat 20-May-17 10:25:46

I'm sorry, but I think that people who claim all parents can give their child breakfast just haven't worked in a school. Particularly a school in a deprived area. The lack of parental care some children experience is heartbreaking.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 10:24:58

There are quite a few INSIDE her own party who are not rooting for her. She is not popular - never has been.

MaizieD Sat 20-May-17 10:23:07

But there is no viable alternative, what do you do when there is no viable option in any direction. Vote for the ones you dislike least as you don't really like any of them.

I think that in that case you have to vote to create a strong opposition. Can you bear the thought of May getting a humungous majority by being 'the least worst option' then prancing around claiming that the whole country is behind her?

'Opposition' doesn't just refer to the Labour Party. It includes Lib Dems, the Green party and the SNP. There are few outside her own party who are rooting for her.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 10:20:59

Proven 5% rise in Sats performance.

Helps to install healthy eating into primary school children over the first 3 formative years at school after that those who can pay do everyone else gets it free.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 20-May-17 09:45:46

Sorry if someone has already posted this but I didn't see Jamie Oliver so I thought other may have missed him to. These are the comments he put on FB:

... but just want to express how much of a massive blow it is to hear Theresa May’s plans to steal away kids free school meals! We've already seen the Childhood Obesity Strategy ripped to shreds and completely compromised beyond belief and now her government have decided to remove these lunches from millions of primary school children.
This is a disgrace as we know this initiative is working even at this early stage as it's a fact that children perform and learn better after eating a decent lunch.
This move shows a complete lack of understanding of all the data that's been shared and puts our future generations at huge risk, as well as further undermining our teachers who benefit immensely from well-fed kids to teach.
What are they doing?! What are they going to snatch back next?! Such a shame what a mess. What's even worse is they think they’re doing a great job which tells me they’re totally disconnected from grass routes and reality...shame. Bad for kids, bad for parents, bad for teachers...shameful and short sighted again.

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 09:39:10

Sorry free school lunches have to go?
Only if May gets back in. It's your choice whether you vote for it or not.

High earners are not necessarily bad guys, but they are rich. They have the money to put back into the system.
A business owner who employs lots of people and makes millions in profits for shareholders does so off the backs of those working for him.

Jane10 Sat 20-May-17 08:51:56

ninny don't worry they just want a 'nanny' state.
Personally I thought that free school lunches for infants was a good use of money and I'm sorry its to go. Free breakfasts for all primary school kids is OK, and of value to some but not as many.
WFA should automatically be given to those on benefits or receiving pension credits. Others can apply.
However, business and industry must be supported and jobs continue to be created by those that take some risks to set up and run them. There should be rewards for some and high earners are not necessarily bad guys just as not everyone on benefits are scroungers. Fairness matters but so does running the economy.
No party will ever make everyone happy. Its just not possible!

Rigby46 Sat 20-May-17 07:33:20

Oh ninny bless - how simple it is in your black and white world. Never mind, it's quite right that we let children suffer because of the inadequacies of their parents - that will teach them to be careful in the choice of their parents.

Rigby46 Sat 20-May-17 07:30:32

cinders all the Tory politicians keeping quiet about WFA, social care funding, slashing of welfare benefits, the heartless wicked attacks on disability benefits, bereavement allowances, changing voting systems ( remember the clamour from the people for that? No me neither) the return of grammar schools, the breakdown of the NHS, the cuts in school funding - if that's the world you want go ahead and vote Tory - but don't try and tell me that that could ever be the better choice.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 07:28:55

You need to listen to the arguments * ninny* it isn't as straight forward as you may think.

ninny Sat 20-May-17 07:25:09

Free school lunches should only be given to children whose parents are on benefit and I don't agree with universal free breakfasts either, ridiculous idea. Surely even the poorest parents can give their child a bowl of cereal and milk before they go to school. The parents are to blame if they don't ensure their child is fed not the government. They will want full board next until they reach 18. Before all the lefties start I was a single parent of 2, but I always put my kids first and made sure they ate well and we're well cared for.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 07:12:36

Jamie Oliver, who was consulted by previous governments and influential in setting up the school lunch system, including them being free for the first 3 years, explained very succinctly and passionately why this system should remain. I could absolutely understand the arguments and am in agreement with them in remaining.

Cindersdad Sat 20-May-17 06:49:21

Durhamjen I agree with you. But there is no viable alternative, what do you do when there is no viable option in any direction. Vote for the ones you dislike least as you don't really like any of them.

There are some good politicians in all parties but they are keeping low profiles for the moment. As usual the moderate center ground gets swamped by the extremes.

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 00:52:08

This is what you get if you vote for May.
Not what I want.

rosesarered Sat 20-May-17 00:38:10

In need means ( I would think) those managing on benefits of one kind or another,
Or in very low paid work.

rosesarered Sat 20-May-17 00:34:43

Yes dj so did I, and very nice those lunches were too.

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 00:29:24

Naturally, Rigby.

Rigby46 Sat 20-May-17 00:25:37

dj that is a rhetorical question is it not? I take it you are not expecting an answer?

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 00:17:21

Rigby, the Cons hope to save £1.5 million from the £2 million cost of the WFA. Therefore it is assumed that only 25% of the poorest pensioners will get it.

Roses, can you tell me why it is okay to give £1000 in tax back to the richest 10% and take £200 from 75% of pensioners?
Does that seem fair to you?

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 00:14:44

I had free school lunches, roses.

Rigby46 Sat 20-May-17 00:10:24

roses define 'in need' , define 'poorer' - I doubt you can because your beloved leader hasn't been able to do so for her manifesto. How do you think she'll mean test WFA?