Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

The trouble is we all know what we think a statesman/woman looks like/sounds like/should be like, but we're not out there trying to be one.

To return to the OP, I do not trust TM because my vision of a leader is not of one who neglects the poorest in their society; conserves the wealth of the richest to the detriment of the poor; ignores the numbers of people sleeping on our streets each night; leaves the NHS until it's in such a state that they can sell it off to the highest bidder- all those built with our money of course; keeps state schools short of money whilst allocating vast amounts to ridiculous 'free' schools; cuts care to the most vulnerable in society - vulnerable children and the disabled; is blind to the advantages of foreign students in our universities; hasn't promised to replace research funding lost from EU research programmes; is using EU nationals and British people living and working in Europe as pawns in a game.

Isn't it strange how the referendum was Cameron's attempt to control the UKIP and now ukippers are turning blue and getting behind the Tories? That should worry someone from TM's background.

I don't trust them either James, and that is why I'm prepared to listen to the Lib Dems.

How offensive daphnedill

Farron is not statesmanlike - he may be a very nice man, a sincere man, but statesmanlike - no.

And, depending on how this election goes, he may well not be the leader in five years' time.

Anyone is allowed to make an observation like that, there have been plenty of posters stating their visions of how they think the future might be.

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Am talking about Farron, not posters on here Ginny ( politicians are fair game) and I have a feeling he will not be the leader by the next election in five years time.

Did you hear Farron speak today roses? He spoke well in my view. Don't always dismiss others as some kind of idiots for having a different view.

Corbyn would never grow into the job of being PM

Farron? Statesman like? Are you sure it's Farron?

He does seem to have grown into the job Ginny, but then people often do. I think the idea of getting someone ready made and perfect is quite a modern phenomenon.

I was listening to Farron in Edinburgh today and he's sounding more statesmanlike.

Of course. Don't know about anyone else.

I presume you are watching Tim Farron now?

Really good suggestion MamaCaz.

As there is no longer any justification for the 5 year parliament, then presumably whoever wins can call another election when they want.

Or, of course, they could be overwhelmed by a no confidence vote. We live in such strange times that anything could happen.

You are right there, varian. Scary, isn't it?

We are only at the beginning of the official election campaign but unless something dramatic happens it looks as if the great leader Kim Jong May will get her landslide.

The country will be plunged into confrontational negotiations. We will be told it is all going well, then when the "bloody difficult woman" antagonises all the other EU countries to the extent that it becomes glaringly obvious that the UK is going to be so much worse off, we will be told that it is all the fault of foreigners and buerocrats who have got it in for us.

At that point the gutter press will be whipping up even more hatred than they did last year and supporting May to the hilt, even when we are down to the point of "deal or no deal" and if we can't stop it we will have thrown away all our influence in the world and become a tiny insignificant offshore island ruled by a dictator.

I do wonder when TM went straight from fawning over Trump to meet Erdogan in Turkey, did she ask his advice on how to achieve a one party state?

The only way we can hope to call a halt to this madness is to vote Liberal Democrat in as many places as possible, but if you judge that your LibDem candidate has no hope of being elected, vote for the candidate who can stop the Tories, whether it is Labour, Green, NHS or Plaid Cymru.

By the way, MamaCaz, you are in charge, along with everyone else who has a vote. It just doesn't feel like it most of the time.

It would only be up to whoever won if they had a big enough majority, though. Up to us to make sure May doesn't.

Hope you are not planning on a coup, and a dictatorship.

Parliament will need another vote on Brexit in two years time, and if May has made a hash of it, there could be another election anyway, because neither side will have confidence in her - always assuming she wins this election.

It shouldn't be entirely up to them though should it Jen? Ah, if only I were In charge ....

Sorry about that, MamaCaz. Couldn't resist.

As there is no longer any justification for the 5 year parliament, then presumably whoever wins can call another election when they want.

Britex? I don't think so.
You never know, though, what people thought they were voting for!

Kim Jong May (Guardian article)

Thanks, Whitewave - though obviously it won't happen!

mama seems a sensible idea

In answer to the OP, I would say that Teresa May's blank cheque should be limited to two years. The way I see it , this is an exceptional general election justified by exceptional circumstances (brought about, let us not forget, by Conservatives taking us all for fools and promising a referendum on Europe when they believed that a remain vote was guaranteed ). If Britex is the overwhelming justification for this general election, then the life of the next government should be limited to two years and there should be another general election as soon as we are out of Europe!

Evening all. Been incredibly busy today so just catching up. Just watching a recording of the Daily Politics and really excited to see Jo Coburn - who has been so biased so far - telling a Con representative, who said we do not have a presidential system, the Theresa May seemed to think we did with her me, myself and us! Is this a moment of change?

She's already tried that dd remember the "go home" van? What an inspired idea that was