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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

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James2451 Sun 07-May-17 13:38:59

‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."

I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.

Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.

No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.

We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 14:10:04

Well make up your mind!! Either it is a waste of time talking or not you can't have it both ways

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 14:07:38

No, can't be guaranteed!
There is a lot of intransigence being shown on GN and we can't not post comments because it irritates somebody ( even several somebodies.)

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 14:02:54

Good so can I have your assurance that you won't speak to me in future it will save me a lot of irritation.

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:59:26

Yes, I agree Ana it is a waste of time saying anything to some posters......but hopefully others will take notice of it.

Ana Mon 05-Jun-17 13:56:28

I don't honestly care what you think of me, whitewave.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:52:32

ana And I know that you can but make silly little remarks, whilst failing to contribute anything positive to the debate whatsoever.

Ana Mon 05-Jun-17 13:49:37

I knew the facts you quoted woule be swept aside, roses. It's a waste of time.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:46:51

You are deliberately misunderstanding what I am saying just as you did yesterday.
rose
I am not going to repeat myself as it is clearly a waste of time.

Suffice it to say that I agree with Cressida Dick
The Greater Manchester Constable
Boris Johnson in his role as mayor
The thrust of the questions of the world press
And many more

I suggest you read and listen to them before you criticise my argument

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:40:01

The police were incredibly fast in responding to the terror incident on Saturday night.Budgets have been kept up for anti- terror units and MI5 and MI6.

Corbyn wanted to cut police levels by another 10% two years ago
Corbyn wanted to get rid of MI5
Corbyn didn't agree with the shoot to kill policy

Corbyn is not just a Labour Leader ( as we are used to) and it would be dangerous to appoint him as PM.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:37:53

Who knows if she hadn't presided over cuts identified by Cressida Dick this morning whether some of those people might still be alive because if greater security and intelligence numbers ? She has blood on her hands and she knows it.

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:35:05

The responsibilty is on the bombers and killers alone.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:34:32

I've answered you on the other thread

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:32:58

Nor does T May! Did Tony Blair bear the responsibility for the July Tube and bus bombings? No, of course not.Did any PM ever, even with the IRA bombings, NO.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:28:19

One thing in Corbyns favour * rose* is that he holds no responsibility for the deaths.

angelab Mon 05-Jun-17 13:25:40

I don't think so rar, why?

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:24:35

Haha! We do see things differently!

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:24:02

....and I get the feeling that Corbyn will be toast now ww

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 13:23:33

What an absolute mauling Maybot got from the world's media today.

They identified so much that she has done wrong - I almost felt sorry for her for a second or two, but it soon passed, when I realised that she has a share in the responsibility for the deaths and injuries.

rosesarered Mon 05-Jun-17 13:22:58

grin not doing well this morning? She gave a very spirited speech and press interview this morning, tearing Corbyn into shreds!
For all those banging on about police numbers, in 2015 Corbyn and his team wanted another 10% cut to police numbers which the Tories opposed!
He also said that he wasn't at all happy with a shoot to kill policy ( he would have liked a dialogue presumably) but now he has issued a catch all statement ( not exactly saying he approves of shoot to kill, ) but saying the police should use whatever force is neccessary.Just days before a GE.Hmm, wonder why he changed his stance?

why he has changed his mind?

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 12:11:50

Cressida Dick indicated that there isn't sufficient resources to meet the police needs.

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 12:07:42

Not doing well this morning is she?

whitewave Mon 05-Jun-17 11:56:00

I get the feeling that even if May wins she is toast. The gutter press won't forget her constant gaffs and poor show, neither will her enemies. The question is who next. I mean there is such an embarrassment of riches to choose from grin

GracesGranMK2 Mon 05-Jun-17 11:45:22

Margaret Beckett was then asked "She (May) did say that she felt that she could do the job and Jeremy Corbyn couldn't do the job of keeping the nation safe from terror. Do you think he can do the job of keeping the nation safe from terrorism.

MB replied:
"I think that is a wholly unjustified slur. She keeps talking about how she is the person to take tough decisions but one thing that has become crystal clear is that don't for heaven sake question the tough decision that she has made; that's the last thing you're supposed to do. She doesn't want to answer questions; she runs away from scrutiny; if she wants credit for taking tough choices, which I'm prepared to give her then she needs to accept that she needs accountability. One thing that is very alarming about the way in which this campaign is mounting is the assumption of let's sweep aside every Labour MP, let's get rid of everybody of any experience and understanding, because I, I Theresa May have a monopoly of wisdom. No she doesn't."

Q: You are not really talking about Mr Corbyn though (yes I have) who is your, Labour Party's nominee for Prime Minister. I mean, does he have the qualities to deal with all the problems facing Britain.

MB: "I think Jeremy has come relatively new to some of these issues but I am sure that he is capable of taking on board new ideas, new information. One thing that I would like to hear the Prime Minister and her parliamentary colleagues say, is that we should look at all of this from start to finish and that includes us; we in the Labour Party, people who fought for civil liberties and so on, we've all got to question the assumptions we've made up to now. We've all got to consider how we can out of this better than we went into it. And we won't do it by simply slagging each other off."

Q: Specifically Mrs May is saying that something needs to change. We need to have a tougher attitude towards extremism in our communities. Do you agree with that.

MB: "yes, you wouldn't think she had been Home Secretary for six years would you?"

GracesGranMK2 Mon 05-Jun-17 11:25:08

Margaret Beckett is just giving a really good interview; I have always seen her as a wise head.

She is talking about cross party co-operation. She is saying that what May should be doing it reaching out and trying to bring people together who don't share her point of view.

"One of the things that has become increasingly evident during this election is not just the incredible arrogance with which the Prime Minister has conducted it but the approach as if there is a monopoly of wisdom. She just said there, several times, about protecting the counter terrorism budget and that is excellent. I have no quarrel with that, if that is absolutely correct, and I am not sure it totally is, it may depend how you define those terms. But what she has ignored and what was drawn to her attention at a Police Federation Conference a year or so ago, by a former armed policeman from Manchester, is that it is community policing where the police derive the intelligence. One theme that has run through all of these events of recent days is the need to cut this problem out at the source and that means intelligence from the communities; it means community policing and that has been savaged under this government."

daphnedill Mon 05-Jun-17 08:32:49

Merci, welshwife.

I'm not at home, so typing on phone and didn't check. The point I was really making is that the French police have a sort of para-military role, which the British police don't, so their deployment is different.