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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

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James2451 Sun 07-May-17 13:38:59

‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."

I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.

Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.

No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.

We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.

durhamjen Mon 15-May-17 14:55:42

www.jrf.org.uk/blog/how-we-mapped-working-age-poverty-risk-parliamentary-constituency

Jane10 Mon 15-May-17 15:36:19

Hey make your minds up folk -one minute you're slagging TM for all your worth then, when I start talking about her as the best bet, you start on about how its not a presidential election so not all about her personally, then you start going on about her personally. Is this chopping and changing a socialist thing? grin

thatbags Mon 15-May-17 15:51:17

I suspect it's lack of cogent arguments, j10.

MaizieD Mon 15-May-17 15:52:50

Slagging of her policies now, Jane grin

Don't think you have to be socialist to slag anyone off...

GracesGranMK2 Mon 15-May-17 15:58:17

Who and in what way has anyone why has "slagged off TM" now commented on her being the "best bet" Jane10? A few quotes to back up this comment would help to know just what you are talking about.

rosesarered Mon 15-May-17 15:59:00

Jane it wouldn't matter what you said ( or I said or any other poster who wasn't a Socialist said)
Thatbags wink

rosesarered Mon 15-May-17 16:03:19

I voted for Brexit but am pleased that EU workers rights are protected, just as I hope all from the UK abroad will be protected in due course.
I think this Conservative manifesto will be the most 'left' in a long time, and that pleases me too ( and I suspect a lot of voters.)

Ana Mon 15-May-17 16:14:08

You're right roses, it wouldn't matter what Jane or anyone not of the Labour persuasion said - they can rant on to their hearts' content about 'Maybot' (whaaat?) but we're supposed to explain ourselves down to the last detail if we dare to mildly support or defend her.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 15-May-17 16:42:21

I am not of the 'Labour' persuasion Ana and I wasn't ranting, I just asked a question. I am extremely anti the Conservatives in their present guise as I have made clear. It isn't rocket science and you don't require a very high education to understand that just because you oppose one party does not automatically mean you support the party their followers oppose.

It would be nice to have a reasoned answer to my question.

durhamjen Mon 15-May-17 16:48:02

Agreed, GracesGran, but you are asking for the impossible.
Some people just don't do reasoned answers.

Ana Mon 15-May-17 16:50:50

I wasn't talking specifically about you, GracesGran2. And I think your question is aimed at Jane10 although I suppose anyone will do!

nigglynellie Mon 15-May-17 17:11:24

Calling Mrs May derogatory names based on her surname is frankly boring,childish completely without any purpose and not worth commenting on or rising to. I also feel that this will be the most left wing conservative manifesto for many a long year, and that pleases me too. Mrs May has the undivided support of both me and my family.

durhamjen Mon 15-May-17 19:32:14

Of course she has, niggly. She would have that even if you thought she was Ukip. Strange that Ukip think she has gone to the right and are happy to back her.

nigglynellie Mon 15-May-17 20:03:03

Sticks and stones dj, sticks and stones! (shrug!)

durhamjen Mon 15-May-17 21:30:38

Housing groups do not think that Mayhem's housing plan will work.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/tory-homes-plan-spin-with-no-substance/

rosesarered Mon 15-May-17 21:33:47

niggly I wonder what the conversation will be like on here after the GE and there are lots of angry posters wondering why Labour lost it?
Do we say one word..... Corbyn, or shall we call him Jezzbot?
Yes, all this silly Maybot and Mayhem etc is like something from junior school.

Eloethan Tue 16-May-17 00:32:40

rosesarered A bit like "the New Messiah" "Jezzer" "sexpot" "poisonous toad" "Comrade Corbyn" "King Rat", etc, etc., when referring to Corbyn is like something from junior school?

nigglynellie Tue 16-May-17 06:43:57

You're right Eloethan! referring to J.C in a detrimental way is just as ridiculous and childish. I don't think you'll find that anyone on here is guilty.

Eloethan Tue 16-May-17 07:39:53

On this thread you mean?

Luckylegs9 Tue 16-May-17 08:23:24

There s no one remotely close to Theresa, she is the person to trust to get the job done. Corbyn is such an embarrassment now, Labour will cease to be if he remains.

whitewave Tue 16-May-17 08:25:39

Trust as in her keeping her word! Well good luck with that as her record is grim to date.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 16-May-17 09:03:06

No one, surely, will be surprised at the current Conservative Party sweeping the board in the election Niggly. Those who argue against this far right party, currently hiding behind the skirts of May just want it to be as small as possible - that is not an unreasonable aim. Only the foolish would think that most anti-May voters expect her not to win.

Once she is in power this slight move into Social Democratic territory will be squashed with perhaps the odd, cost free bit of virtue waving getting by. The Tories are owned and run by the mega-rich and they have never cared for the workers, other than as cannon fodder for their businesses or for war, and they are not about to begin to do so now. This was completely clear to all those who lived as adults through the war and voted Labour in their swathes after it. I will have absolutely no sympathy for anyone on here who, having voted Tory, finds their lives, there children's lives and their grandchildren's lives are much worse and the rich continue to get much, much richer.

Read the story of the frog and the scorpion Niggly. When the scorpion stung the frog killing them both the frog asked him "why?". His answer; "because it is my nature". The Conservatives will live by their nature too.

Conservatives believe in personal responsibility - which mean abolishing the NHS or making a basic service available to only those who cannot possibly buy private care. No cooperative acts to provide for all for them

The Conservatives believe in limited government which means they will allow the Philip Greens of this world to treat workers just how they like to make a large profit for themselves.

Conservatives believe in free markets which means hard lines if you cannot afford housing, heating and food as long as those running the markets get richer.

Conservatives believe in individual liberty often imposing what they believe they should have liberty to do by limiting the liberty of others.

Conservatives believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals - and heaven help those who cannot help themselves.

May is a mask. There will be a large number of more right-wing (the majority of the party) and extreme right-wing Tories who are gritting their teeth at what she is announcing but know that the one thing they want is to win with as large a majority as possible and that, by denying their nature for the period of the election that is what they will do.

Those who are against May can see that this denial of their nature will win for them too. They want to make sure that win will do as little damage as possible.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 16-May-17 09:04:15

There s no one remotely close to Theresa, she is the person to trust to get the job done

That is just frightening.

whitewave Tue 16-May-17 09:06:44

Good summary gg

rosesarered Tue 16-May-17 09:21:25

Some posters forget to say ( as they keep reminding others to do) to follow a long post with......IMHO